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Ryuu96 on 19 February 2025
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r/Conservative is not happy at least and they've locked their Sub down to certain users only, Lol.

Some of the top comments on threads in response to Trump's recent insanity.

I wonder how Taiwan is feeling right now....

85 Upvotes.

What I don’t understand is why he thinks it’s Ukraines fault for starting the war. Is there something we don’t know about why Russia invaded? It wasn’t the other way around…

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Pls tell me he isn’t actually doing this. If Zelensky’s a dictator then what does that make Putin?

525 Upvotes

I'm not disputing anything Trump said, but one country invading the other should not profit from such invasion. Whatever peace talks come to, hopefully there is a precident set where you can not just invade one country

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Read the room man. I don't give a shit what your opinion on Ukraine is; calling the leader of a country facing a full blown invasion a dictator is terrible optics.

308 Upvotes

Everything about this is bad, undermines every effort we've made to date, and is misinformed. It's not a good look either. There's a lot I like about this admin here at home, but this self aggrandizing bullshit is bad foreign policy and I'm not going to pretend to like it for tribal reasons.

826 Upvotes

A full throated endorsement of Russian government talking points & policy positions. This is disgraceful and an abandonment of our European allies in favor of Putin.

625 Upvotes

These talks are gonna let Putin walk all over the US and Ukraine. So much for us being #1 and demanding respect around the world. The "money" we are sending is in the form of military equipment that was going to be decommissioned eventually or sold for a fraction of the cost. So in reality we have sent way less "money" than what he says. Not to mention replacing this equipment provides jobs for Americans. I really can't believe that Trump is going to side with Putin on this war. Its pathetic. He's literally regurgitating Russian disinformation talking points about approval ratings or mishandling money.

682 Upvotes

He’s very badly informed here and needs to get better advisors on this topic and maybe stop listening to Putin so much as these are uniquely Putin talking points. It’s good to take the call and show a little openness to be credible, but there are two sides to this story for sure. Pushing Europe pay for more is great but there’s a lot of very false stuff in here.

First of all, most of the money is our assessed value of aid in the form of military items. Those aren’t dollars and that equipment was either going to get decommissioned or sold for 1/20th that, actual cash aid is very small as a %. It’s like 90% military aid and it’s not 350b by any realistic accounting.

Secondly, Zelnski is a wartime president but not a dictator and the Ukrainian constitution expressly does not require elections during wartime and was written expressly for the scenario of a Russian invasion. Why aren’t we talking about free elections in Russia by the way?

Thirdly, Ukraine was winning when they had lots of ammo and missile supplies. Biden and Europe piecemealed out aid and also set extensive rules of engagement on their use reducing their effectiveness and here we are with a bad situation. Spending aid sooner and earlier would’ve been a very different outcome.

Lastly, Russia is rational here. If we signal we are going to flood Ukraine with ordinance, the economics of this war become actual crap for Russia and they’ll make a deal.

Maybe Trump is trying to make this scary on both sides to get a deal but I really hope he doesn’t truly believe this crap and this is just some sort of comprehensive strategy to cause a deal that crosses Russian aggression off and ends the war.

Edit: some have asked so where is the 350b. As far as I can tell, we gave just short of 100b and it’s 70% military equipment mostly used, and the rest a mix of bulk goods and cash. Europe and others gave about 100b also. The 350b might be made up, or the original purchase price of the military gear when it was new, or something else. But we’ve not given 350 we’ve given under 100b. Zelensky is correct in saying about half isn’t there, because Ukraine has gotten less than 200b, not 350b, in aid.

929 Upvotes

Nations that are being invaded tend to postpone elections of their leader while they're still at war. Somebody change Trump's social media passwords.

660 Upvotes