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Robomado on 14 February 2025
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Esparadrapo said:
JRPGfan said:

I think he is right, in this video.
Xbox likely is above 30m.  (people saying xbox is only at 25m are wrong (like he claims))

Its probably not sitting at 36m though (as he mentioned before).
I think its closer to ~31m, if I had to guess (thats shipped chips, from AMD, to xbox, to make consoles out of).

If AMD had made more than 110m chips sold to consoles, they would have announced over 110m instead of over 100m (I personally think).
However if the number is like 105m-106m.... they might not want to seem petty with their announcements (and give exact numbers).

That way, it could make sense that sony got over 75m, and xbox had over 30m, and still make for a AMD announcement of 100m+.
If Xbox was at 36m, AMD would have announced over 110m.... that much I think is reasonable to assume.

He's just a pot calling a kettle black. His 36 million estimate is off by around the same amount as Zubytech's only in the opposite direction and he's mad because people are calling him out on it.

Kyuu said:
Esparadrapo said:

He's just a pot calling a kettle black. His 36 million estimate is off by around the same amount as Zubytech's only in the opposite direction and he's mad because people are calling him out on it.

Zubytech is an obnoxious console warrior, and I don't say that lightly. I muted his misinforming arse years ago.

There is a difference between propagating data that is outside all realistic estimates, and favoring the estimate that is more positive within the believable range. I remember challenging one of Welfare's monthly estimates here on VGChartz, and I'm pretty sure his numbers indeed proved too positive for Xbox and the data eventually got adjusted down. His mistake (and VGChartz's mistake) was the tendency to choose the optimistic figure within the aggregated range (and assume higher Series S splits for revenue based data). But they did make sure to keep it within the acceptable range. This isn't how Zubytech does things, which is what's pissing off Welfare. Zuby's data is often devoid of all reason, he doesn't seem to put any real effort analyzing anything.

Personally, I didn't take AmpereAnalysis and MediaCreate's low Xbox estimates at face value, but I didn't flatout ignore them either. I figured the actual sales were somewhere between the two ends. Zuby goes below the low end and he doesn't do it because he's smart, he does it because he's a fanboy lol.

Zuby_tech is far from obnoxious console warrior. Not nearly as Xbox brigade like GeneralMLD, Kidsmoove, RandalThor and similar. But putting that aside. I don't agree with Zuby Tech numbers. 26 million is low. Welfare's 36 million shipped is really overestimated. 21 million was in June 2023. If some of you thing that XSeries has sold in 10+ mil. units in year and a half, someone is not living in a reality. XSeries sales already have cratered that year and especially in 2024. I mean, under a million just during holidays in US. LOL

According to Take 2 numbers which are 94 mil. as of Nov. 2024...

Looks like bunch of sites are citing Take 2 numbers which also says XSeries sold as of Nov.30 27-29 mil.

PS5 was at 65.5 million shipped as of Sep. 30th
As of Nov.30th PS5 could have been as 68-69 million shipped and 66 million sold through maybe. Sony had really big sales last holiday, though.
Which would be for Xbox 28 million sold through which falls in line with T2 statement. as of Nov. 30th. +30 million shipped Xboxes surely is as of Dec 31st. Btw. in last few days Welfare backpedalled somehow with its initially 36 mil. XSeries shipped ( which is surely a overestimate, a heavy one ). On Era or IB he mentioned +30 million shipped. Also, he made a video immediately after Take 2 numbers, which sounds like a desperation move.