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Ryuu96 7 hours ago
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konnichiwa said:
shikamaru317 said:

I would say Starfield is a bit of a unique case, Bethesda is a studio in the upper tier of popularity in sales, it didn't need Gamepass to hit big player numbers, which was why it was able to hit 330k peak concurrent on Steam and ultimately sell an estimated 3.5-4.5m copies there so far, in addition to Xbox console sales and Gamepass players.

Obsidian on the other has never been a studio whose games sold all that well. While their licensed games like South Park and Fallout New Vegas sold well, their original IP's have never been massive sellers. Alpha Protocol flopped, causing Sega to have to lower their projections for the fiscal quarter it released in. Tyranny only sold like 1m copies lifetime. Pillars of Eternity sold like 3m lifetime while it's sequel tracked well behind the first game in sales. Only The Outer Worlds has been particularly successful for them, selling over 4m copies in the first 2 years.

Nobody should go in expecting some huge 100k+ peak concurrent players on Steam for Avowed, it'll be lucky if it can match the 41k peak of Pillars of Eternity, the IP it spunoff from, since PC Gamepass and the Battle.net release will surely pull some Steam sales. I think we should be happy if it can top the 21k peak of Pillars of Eternity 2, if it can pull that off while also doing well on Xbox, Gamepass, and Battle.net, I think Xbox will be happy with the sales and greenlight a sequel.

Starfield is just an example, in the past plenty of times steam was mentioned or used in sales/players playing the game, Forza Horizon/Sea of thieves as an example, Starfield was just the biggest example it was post after post about Starfield and Steam sales/players playing.  I also know very well that if Avowed had 250K concurrent players people would be posting about it how great it is...So where is the difference really between discussing something that is low and high? I havn't said anything about concurrent players expectations anyway, all I did was saying the last days that Avowed is number 80 on top selllers...number 60...Reached top 50 and today reaching Number 16... Is it even negative news? Seems rather positive no?

I don't even think G2 was calling you out directly for any recent posts, he was making a general comment about a trend recently with people obsessing over CCU  before a new XGS release, Lol. Of course if Starfield had high CCUs it would be posted about. The point is more than you can't make an assumption something has failed because it hasn't hit a arbitrary CCU number.