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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Bofferbrauer2 said:

I made some little back-of-the-envelope calculations with the leaked performance of the 9070XT, and if those are correct then the 9070XT should be ~5-10% faster than the 5070Ti (extrapolated by comparing the performance to the 4080, then taking the performance difference between the 5080 and 4080 and then comparing the specs of the 5070 Ti to those of the 5080), while the 9070 non-XT should be 12-20% faster than the 5070.

One question about the price of the 5070Ti (and possibly the 9070XT, though probably to a lesser extent) is that "Will they even sell at MSRP?". Most 5080 and 5090 non-FE models have a frankly ludicrous markup, so if the same happens with the 5070Ti then even a $700 pricetag could be well below the price most 5070Ti will be selling at. But I agree that it would be a bad view for AMD and my price expectations are more like $600 for the 9070XT and $500 for the 9070 non-XT, which if my performance predicitions stay true seem like a good price to me.

We will see how it pans out in the reviews. Radeons own expectations based on official slides show around 7900XT performance for 9070XT. 4080 Super is faster than 7900XTX. Considering 4nm is a small improvement vs 5nm and 9070XT has 64CUs vs 60CUs of 7800XT, they would need 40-50% jump gen on gen effectively. Idk man, I have my doubts lol. Granted you can't compare different arches that way and maybe Radeon can pull a rabbit out of it's hat. But I highly doubt they made that big of a jump. Where as against say 7900XT like Radeons own slides are suggesting, that would be more of a 25-30% gen on gen increase which makes more sense given the small node jump.

But hey, if they can pull a big jump like that, more power to them. But I have my doubts.

I think the 4080S is faster than the 7900XTX in this because some amount of RT is being used, without RT (and one game where AMD's GPUs have atrociously low framerates due to some bug iir the last HU video correctly, not sure if that game is in their test suite) it should be in front.

Either way, I got the numbers from the leaks that compared the 9070XT to a 4080S, so those may be outliers, but it's the only data I have, so I had to go from there to make that calculation. We'll know more in a couple weeks I guess.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 07 February 2025