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Phenomajp13 1 day ago
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XtremeBG said:
CourageTCD said:

At first, it was 155M, then 157M~159M, then 160M, then 160.6M and now 161M. Soon people will start talking about 161.5 or something like that

It was never 155M, it was always "more than" 155M, or "over" 155M, 157-159M was the most mentioned range between 2014 and 2024. So 10 years.

The theoretical maximum of 161.8M and everything above 159M was only mentioned rarely when calculating and speaking of how much could the PS2 sell in the best case scenario.

Now is not 161M. 161M is the number where there won't be any doubt that the Switch outsold PS2, since Layden confirmed that the 160.6M number was on point for the production units. But if Switch end up somewhere close to that there may be some people come with the theoretical maximum of 161.8M. So in order to shut all mouths and no one can doubt the Switch 1st place, 162M is the golden number.

XtremeBG said:
CourageTCD said:

Well, 155,000,001 is more than 155M and they are pratically the same thing. If the Switch had managed to break the 155M it should have considered the most sold console, same thing if the Switch had crossed the 160M mark when the goalpost was there. The "more than" expression is just an excuse for not settng the sales in a fixed number and be able to play around with units sales by convinience 


What I find it funny is that people demand that the Switch prove its sales numbers to claim the number 1 position but are okay with vague terms like "more than" or "at the range of maximum of" for the PS2. The oficial PS2 sales is "more than 160M". If the Switch manages to sell two units more than that number it should be considered the most sold console oficially.

It was never 155,000,001, since "over" 155M was till march 2012. And the PS2 was sold for 9 more months. So it's clear the PS2 didn't sell just 1 unit in those 9 months, so Switch breaking 155M shouldn't be considered the most sold console even before 2024, when the announcement of 160M was made. It was always known that for those 9 months at least some 2M have been moved in the worst case scenario.

I am not sure that people are okay with vague terms, it's just what they have. Everyone would want to know the exact numbers, and Sony just go out and say it. As of this moment PS2 official sales are more than 160M yes, but Shawn Layden confirmed the 160.6M is real. So the Switch should manage to sell more than 160.6M. In my previous posts I talked about what Switch needs to sell in order no one can be able to doubt it, that's why I said 162M.

XtremeBG said:
Phenomajp13 said:

Quote the exact sentence please, I don't follow.

Also I don't follow what is so hard to understand. Why does it matter that people will still not accept it and why do we have to adjust the goal to 162 million as you suggested just because of them believing false information?

Your first post after your ban expired. You don't follow ? Your problem.

Weren't we done with that ? Lastly you said you take my word for it, and did a post about that, and I explained before that everything to you. Are we starting again ? I have never said we should move the goal to 162M.

The bolded looks like goalpost moving to me but yes we can move on since you claim those arent your intentions. That post wasn't just aimed at you ofcourse.

So do you agree that those that would still not believe are not relevant because its false information? The goal is 160.6?