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killer7 on 03 February 2025
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Fight-the-Streets said:
killer7 said:

Are you aware of what you are saying? If that was true, we would have to subtract even millions from this 160.636... number. That would mean the PS2 would come down dangerously close to the DS. I doubt it undersold it as we know 155,1 million units have in fact been shipped by march 31,2012. But if what you said with these 10- 15% was true, we would even need to debate that 155,1 million number... here i would nearly defend the PS2. Of course they shipped less then 160 million but not that less... at least i don't think so. But if that was true, PS2s total could be a lot lower than 160,64 million!!

I believe that the PS2 indeed shipped approximately 160 million units. The figure of 160,636,885 is likely a fantasy number. The actual production number should be between 175 and 185 million. Because if 160,636,885 were indeed the total number of units produced, then yes, the PS2 likely would have sold fewer units than the Nintendo DS. Considering the PS2’s highly successful and exceptionally long lifespan, the number of unsold consoles must be around 10–15%!

If the PS2 was 175 to 185 million Sony sure as hell would not have been shy telling us. Imagine they would come up with that number next year when Switch probably reaches 160 million?! Not even Sony die hards would believe it. It would not even be possible because 16,5 million PS2 and PS3 where shipped in FY2012/13. The PS3 was ~ 12 million. The maximum possibility would be 171,6 million (155,1 million+ 16,5 million) but that would mean that PS3 did not ship 1 single unit and the Xbox 360 would be Nr.2 of Gen 7 and PS3 Nr.3.

Xbox 360 sold 84 million+ back in june 2014! There was even an announvement of MS!

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-399-xbox-one-out-now-xbox-360-sales-rise-to-84-million/1100-6420231/

But if the 160,64 million is true and these 10- 15% of consoles unsold is only remotley true, then the PS2 would only be on par with the DS at best. Even that 155,1 number must be questioned then. But only if they also include unsold consoles.