| Jizz_Beard_thePirate said: Honestly it feels like the gpu market is rigged. And I don't mean in the usual duopoly sense where you have two companies that don't want to step on each others toes. I mean in the sense that Nvidia seems to make all the decisions... Even for Radeon. RDNA 3 was the biggest hint at this sorta scenario. Before release if I was Radeons competitor, I'd be putting my best foot forward in every area. 6900XT went toe to toe against 3090 so the idea of Radeon developing an MCM monster sounds like something that would make Nvidia have nightmares. Yet when Lovelace launched, they perfectly configured the 4080 to be as fast as a 7900XTX? Like sure 7900XTX was a bit faster in Raster while 4080 a bit faster in RT but they were largely within spitting distance of each other for Raster. So it's like, uhh how does Nvidia know? Similar thing with this gen. It takes time for GPU companies to configure specs of the skus they are gonna sell, takes time for distribution to get their shat together, takes time to let their partners know, etc. Yet Nvidia knew well ahead of time that Radeon is gonna not bother competing at the high end. And while there's rumours about 9070 XT being as fast as a 4080 Super, I highly doubt that while Radeons own slides show around 7900XT performance. So it feels like the GPU space is predetermined even before the generation gets started. It really does feel like Jensen and Su sits at the dinner table and plans all this out. The only outlier thus far is clearly intel with the B580 launch and until they can get their drivers together, I think we are going to continue to see awful improvements outside of the 90 class. |
The 4080 lined up with the 7900XTX because AMD missed their performance targets by 15 to 20%. The 7900XTX's performance ended up where they though the 7900XT's performance would land. While it wouldn't have matched the 4090, the 7900XTX would have been far enough about the about the 7900XT and 4080 to be legit 90 class product IIRC They would have had to re-tapeout the die to resolve the issue with Navi 31. There was some brief talk of them doing that and then releasing those dies as a revision for the 7000 series but that never came to fruition. I always wondered if RDNA3.5 was just what RDNA3 was supposed to be originally.
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