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Farsala said:
Phenomajp13 said:

Farsala said:

Sony's shipment numbers still match to what they say.

Nintendo's shipment numbers would not match 164m DS.

Likewise nobody would believe Sony if they said 164m PS2, because their shipment numbers never matched up with that.

Now you have flat out resorted to pushing their lie and you would absolutely believe whatever they say because it protects PS2. Sony's numbers do not add up. They reported 155 1 million as of March 2012. They are NOW reporting it as 160 million as of March 2012. Either they purposely underreported before or they are lying now. That is obviously fishy no matter how desperate Sony's white knights want to defend it. I challenge anyone to put together the data that aligns with PS2 hitting 160 million at March 31, 2012. 

Nintendo would only need to do like Sony and just adjust the DS last reported figure of 154 million as of whatever date (can't remember when it was discontinued) up to 164 million for the same date. 

No, I follow shipment data. Sony and Nintendo both provide data to their investors. If they are found out lying, they could be sued.

Sony provided data in March 2012 for 155.1m.

Sony provided data in March 2013 for an unknown amount between 158-162m.

Nintendo provided data for DS in March 2016 for 154m

If Sony or Nintendo said 164m than that would contradict the shipment data.

Sony saying 160m does not contradict that shipment data. Get over it.

There is 0% chance I will ever believe some random user over Sony's or Nintendo's shipment data. Now if only MS provided more shipment data...

They should get sued! One possibility is that they lied now. They saw Switch comes close and will trounce 155 million so they changed their number to "over 160 million sold through" hoping no one would remember their fiscal report 2011/12 where 155,1 million shipped was confirmed.

Or they where lying to their shareholders, telling them they shipped less than they did. That means they would hide 5 million+ PS2s they shipped back then. More shipped consoles mean more income= more income tax to pay for them. Failing to pay invome tax for 5 million PS2s... thats a huge deal. And this possibility i could exclude. So i think they lied now.