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CladInShadows said:
UnderwaterFunktown said:

Some games certainly have more bloat than they should have but I find the poll option "not like they used to" pretty funny because old school definitely did not respect your time with stuff like full game overs, tons of trial and error design and RPGs having much more forced grinding.

I think we need to agree that "respecting your time" really means something different depending on who is playing.  A list of 100 shitty side quests respects my time a lot less than full game overs, trial and error, and grinding.  I'm sure others would disagree.

Exactly! I'm one who doesn't necessarily appreciate trial and error, depending on how exactly it's done. I love Sekiro, but for me (my skill level?), some of the boss fights were just trial and error, over and over again... Well, all of them, really, must some of them did start to feel like they didn't respect my time either, especially due to the new moves that could sometimes come up only after a very large number of tries.