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KLXVER 1 day ago
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Runa216 said:
KLXVER said:

Ok. I have calmed down a bit. Runa just does this to me. Its not the first time. But you guys need to stop cherrypicking sentences from what people write and make them look bad. I dont know if thats your tactic or you are just too stupid to understand context, but please figure it out.

Nobody's cherry-picking sentences of yours. it's well-observed behavioural patterns we pick up on. We're just using particular sentences and highlighting them because it's easier than having to do a psychological deep dive into your habits every time. 

This is a videogame forum, not a therapist's office. IF you don't want to be called out for the things you say, then chose your words more carefully and stop insinuating that YOU Get to decide who does and does not deserve representation, and stop saying that no amount of education will change your mind (paraphrasing, of course, referring to when you said you were impressed with someone's knowledge but that still wouldn't change your mind), or acting like representation is an inherently negative thing. 

WE all know exactly what your words mean, even if you don't necessarily. You legitimately may not even understand how damaging or harmful the rhetoric you regurgitate actually is. You may just be weirded out and uncomfortable with change and unable to cope with a world around you that isn't the way it was. I get that part. I used to be kinda transphobic myself and I was in the exact same boat as a lot of people I argue with here. I used to be like 'no, it's male and female, determined by genitals, end of discussion, anything else is a mental disorder', but then I grew up. I gained empathy as I matured, I met more people, I came to understand the history and what it means, I delved a lot deeper into the difference between sex and gender, etc, and I very much so did that thing where I calculated the potential costs and benefits of this change. And it took me years but now I see the patterns and can reflect upon them. I know you aren't specifically speaking out about trans issues in this thread but it is a very hot button topic lately, one that applies to the 'woke' tags. 

The only way this shit gets resolved is if people have empathy and compassion. IF people WANT to learn from their mistakes and grow as a person. The problem is that so many people find any attempts to change them for the better as an attack and dig their heels in. And we're seeing it in this thread and with you. IT's not 'wait, what am I getting wrong and why are these people angry at me?', it's 'how dare they fucking attack me for a difference of opinion!'. 

Nobody can force perspective on you. Nobody can make you change your worldview, that shit has to come from the inside. And MANY people in the real world and in this thread have tried to explain from every angle why this outrage about 'wokeness' is harmful and where the logic breaks down and why it's actually good to have diversity and bad to be against it. But many people still act like the very existence of any sort of diversity initiatives is a bad thing, that trans people are inherently predators, that a person is defined by their genitals, and that ANY attempt to counter-balance the lack of representation is somehow WORSE than it was before because any change to the status quo may make things uncomfortable. 

People are 'calling you out' on shit because we've been observing culture and noticing patterns. You may not even realize what you're saying or what message your words carry, but we all know it's the exact same sort of shit we saw prior to women getting their rights, or black people getting their rights, or gay people getting their rights, and are still experiencing when trans people fight for their rights. IT's always someone complaining about change, trying to stop progress and doing it under a different label every time culture moves on or learns from it. 

It was Political correctness at one point, and that label has changed every few years and now we're onto woke and now we're including DEI. it's always just another way to stifle change and demonize those who push for progress. You may not even realize it's what you're doing but it is exactly what you are doing. Whether you want to or not, that's exactly what you are doing. 

Complaining about Wokeness is just the newest way to complain about positive, progressive changes. Next year it might be something else. Be sure you're not on the wrong side of history. 

I want to argue that, but what you just said applies to you as much as you think it applies to me...except the cherrypicking part. I try not to do that.