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the-pi-guy said:
KLXVER said:

It usually is about forced diversity just for the sake of it, it feels disingenuous.

Who decides if diversity if forced or not? 

Why is it different if a gaming studio says "we need to make sure our character is an attractive white man" so that it'll sell? 

KLXVER said:

It is the writing that is the main problem. Its not that they only want pretty characters, its that the less attractive characters feels like a statement from the developer. I think a lot of this is just people being so sick of wokeness that any indication of a game being so will set them off.

KLXVER said:

Of course you can have a conversation about how badly written a nonbinary character is without accusing eachoter of anything. I just think that is a conversation that is very difficult to keep under control on a public forum where anyone can just join the conversation.

Shouldn't require any "control" in the first place. 

People are just saying what they're mad about. If you're mad about bad writing, you just say that. 

If you're mad about a game forcing a woman with a shaved head on you, that's not really the same thing. 

For example Intergalactic is "woke", and I've seen several people talk about how "we're playing as a man from prison". Am I supposed to take that they're complaining about the writing in the trailer somehow? 

And critically, if you don't want to be grouped in with those people, and you want to talk about bad writing, maybe just stop labelling yourself that way? 

Who decides if diversity is forced or not? We all do individually. Every person has their own view on what is considered forced.

Why is it different if a gaming studio says "we need to make sure our character is an attractive white man" so that it'll sell? It isnt any different. Especially if the character is like "Im a white straight man, you NEED to respect me" I would go "Fuck you! You dont tell me what I have to feel. Youre a made up douchebag."

You can group me in with whoever you want. I just agree with some of what they are saying.

And again its about red flags. People see something that reminds them of "the woke agenda" and they will call it out. Whether its valid or not.

A lot of it is reactionary and over time you become very defensive. Like J.K. Rowling. She didnt just wake up one morning and decided to dislike trans people. She was an ally as they call it. But she had one opinion that trans people disagreed with and she recieved so much hate and so many threats over time that now she cant even go 20 minutes without shit talking anything trans. I think she even hates the Transformers movies at this point. She was pushed to the brink and now she sees red flags in whatever news story or blog or movie or game about trans people.