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the-pi-guy said:
bdbdbd said:

And I would add that people hate when they shove politics in your entertainment, especially when you use the entertainment to get away from politics and such matters.

People don't care if entertainment is political. Most entertainment that does anything interesting is political. What people don't like is when the politics are at odds with their own views.

Lots of the biggest media in the world right now is political. Marvel, Star Wars, Star Trek is political. 

Lord of the Rings is political. There is stuff about kings, war. There's environmentalism.

The Hunger Games is political. 

Tons of stories are about government action (such as war), or about conflict with a authoritarian government.

bdbdbd said:

Surely, when someone says he or she has high moral, you have some sort of idea what he or she means?

I'm going to respond to this part next. 

As I said no. I'm not aware of any definition of moral that is used the way you're using it. 

As I've said a few times, "following more rules" is arbitrary. It's a meaningless idea. 

bdbdbd said:

Of course all religions are made up. I'm not saying any of them was more valid than any other, it's just that their values, dogmas and punishment for not following a religion differs from each other. If there was a religion where homosexuality was punisheable by death, it would clearly be much worse than a religion where it's not punisheable by death. If there was a religion where women would need to cover themselves or get stoned or whipped or raped, it would be much worse than religion that doesn't require women to cover themselves. If there was a religion where leaving a religion was punisheable by death, it would clearly be worse than religion that doesn't do that. 

I've used the European natural pagan religions as an example of non-dogmatic religion that based on practicioner's own philosophy and on the other extreme I've used islam as an example of dogmatic religion that has very strict rules and severe punishment for not following them.

The point is that even when people *do* have the same rules, they frequently get interpreted differently. 

And people frequently don't pick the same rules. 

Take it the next logical step, if religion is made up by people, why would you expect everyone to follow the religion the same way? 

Even when a church body is strict about what they teach, you will still find that individuals have different thoughts about it. Those different views don't get expressed in an authoritarian country, but people still aren't actually going to be on the same page. 

If you define politics broadly enough, everything is politics. Most often entertainment views politics as an enemy, even if it would be on the "good" side, while protagonist is an individualist who rejects politics and breaks rules to achieve his goal. This is sonewhat easy for people to understand, because this is what they often experience on their everyday life - they just can't break the rules the same way the hero of the story does. 

Different people follow different religions in different ways. Different religions have different dogmas and If you reject the dogmas, you reject the religion. Different religions have different punishment for such blasphemy, on some it's death, some it's banishement from religious community and some it's nothing. You can find the punishment in some religions from it's dogmas, that are not to be questioned, and the religious community makes the god's will to happen. So, while you can intrepret the religion the way you want, it doesn't prevent you getting stoned to death, because the majority's intrepretation is that you need to get stoned for incorrect or non-dogmatic intrepretation.



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