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Hardstuck-Platinum 5 hours ago
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160rmf said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

So now we're using multiple controllers and local multiplayer to define what makes a handheld into a home console hybrid. Well according to my research, most Philips CDi systems did not launch with multiplayer ports or support local multiplayer, only some newer models did. Do we just disqualify most Philips cdi's from existence as home consoles because they didn't support multiple controllers and have local mutiplayer? No, of course not. That would be silly

Thats because they are archaic and limited.

Its like excluding gameboy as handheld for not having touch-screen.

Again, home consoles are able to have multiple controllers to play on a single display connected to the main system.

That's why games developed with that funcionality in mind can't be ported on handhelds.

Cut the straw man

Being archaic and limited doesn't disqualify something from having it's status. Like you said, it would be like excluding gameboy as handheld for not having a touchscreen. There's no rules about home consoles having to have multiple controllers and local mutiplayer support, if there was the CDi could not classify as a home console. 

Vinther1991 said:

Can you connect external controllers? Can you play on the TV without holding the whole console in your hands? Does it do split-screen multiplayer? Can you do it out of the box? Does it upscale the resolution?

Yes you can connect a DS3 controller to the PSP go whilst it is connected to the TV. yes you can play the PSP go on a TV without having the handheld in your hands. Can't do split-screen multiplayer but neither can most Philips CDi's, and that is still regarded as a home console. Upscaling of resolution is irrelevant because you can buy external upscalers. Resolutions don't determine whether something qualifies as a home console. If it did, all the older consoles would get disqualified for having too low of a resolution. 

bdbdbd said:
Hardstuck-Platinum said:

NES is just as much of a computer as a gaming PC? A single purpose games console that has no OS (I looked it up) is just as much of a computer as a gaming PC? How exactly does a computer operate without an OS? They're called operating systems for a reason, you need them to operate the computer. Are you trying to say that just because the computer turns on when you press the button it is technically "operating" and therefore doesn't need the OS to be operated by the user? 

Computer operates like the program you're using tells it to, doesn't matter if the program is operating system, a game or a spreadsheed app. On a technical level, computer is the circuitry required to do computing. Videogame consoles are a type of computers that are called videogame consoles because of the task they're designed to perform, which is to play videogames. 

OK. We're overcomplicating this. Computers are open platforms, consoles are closed platforms. To develop a game on console in a professional way you need a development kit and permission to release the game from the console maker. People are trying to be smart and bamboozle with me technical jargon about computers but why are we comparing open platforms to closed platforms?