Hiku said:
Phenomajp13 said:
Take your own advice because it doesn't align with reality. Nintendo doesnt care but to say Sony doesn't looks ridiculous. They could have announced this in 2018, yet decided against lol. Did they not know, despite it being a platform discontinued in 2013? A prior president says it randomly on a podcast and now all of a sudden they cant wait to tell the world? You don't think they are aware of Switch? Sony has a video celebrating the history of PS and when they start talking about the future of PS, they start talking about a platform they don't own? You think Nintendo would ever start talking about PS in a celebratory video about Nintendo's history? Literally another section of their site still says 155 as of 2012. I get it, the defense force is out in full force for PS but no need to quote others on something thats very reasonable to accuse them of. The evidence is stacked against them and yet they still reframe from being fully open about it. |
"All of a sudden they can't wait to announce it to the world" by waiting 8 months after he made the comment?
And "announcing it to the world" by not having it anywhere on their Twitter, but only viewable after visiting their website (they didn't even promote the website article as of me writing this), click on 3 different links, and then having to scroll down half the page? I don't care about defense forces as long as they actually consider the logic surrounding their argument.
When someone doesn't even make an attempt, they're just letting their emotions rule them. The shipment periods near the end of PS2's production were lumped in together with PS3 and Vita. This continued for Vita, presumably to mask its poor sales. Xbox did similar things with some of their underperforming systems, etc.
Grouping them together like that lead to the theoretical range for Vita being as ridiculously wide as 50% more or less.
If they revealed the exact final PS2 numbers, it would unmask the Vita figures.
While that's not much of an issue today, Vita was still in production in 2018. I didn't suggest that there's not a single higher up at Sony that cares at all. I said not even remotely close to the people that are being emotional about it now.
So they're not likely to have a press conference about it years later. Jim Ryan mentioned it in passing on a podcast.
And now it's PlayStation's 30th Anniversary. The question for any serious person was never if Sony were maliciously making it up.
It was whether Ryan mispoke. Did he remember the correct figure off the top of his head? Was he rounding up, or down? Etc. With it being on their 30th Anniversary website, it means that someone at Sony signed off on this. Phenomajp13 said:
Also Sony is in what position? The same Sony that told their own employees to do better with their profit margins or the same Sony laying people off? |
Lines up with what I said about their only real care being money.
They wouldn't be highly paid excecs if they weren't hyper focused on how to best make profit. |
What? No they literally announced the PS2 had sold 155.1 as of March 2012 in 2018. So if they didn't care in 2018, why do they care now? 30th anniversary? Was selling over 500 million consoles not an achievement to them in 2018 when they knew all along PS2 sold over 160 million but didn't care to annouce it. The only unsound logic is yours, grasping for straws because you know deep down it's obvious how much they care. No one is emotional about this besides Sony. That's why all of a sudden they cant wait to shout this from the rooftop now but didn't in 2018, where the PS2's sales are more relevant to the occasion because they were literally advertising a major sales feat! PS2's 160 million is actually relevant to that and not some 30th Anniversary where if it was 155 million, why would it matter? It would still be the highest selling platform in history but now all of a sudden 160 million is so important. Sony cares and so do the hurt warriors.
It does not line up with what you said because you also borderline took a jab at us saying "That's why they are in their position, and we are here." I took offense to that because nothing about PS right now I view as success. I see a stagnant/declining business.
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