2024 US Presidential Election

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Mnementh said:

RolStoppable said:

That is what Kamala Harris ran on. Punish corporations for price gouging, tax cuts for the working class, benefits for first time house buyers.

Trump's policies, if implemented, will cost the working class up to an additional $4,000 a year when they are already stretched thin as it is.

One policy proposal is good for the working class, the other one is bad. This is a very easy call, so how could Trump win the election regardless? Because it's like sundin said, there are too many idiots who don't understand the economy.

In the aftermath of this election there have been way too many analyses that were built on the premise that American voters decided in a reasonable and rational manner, but Occam's Razor shouldn't be ignored. When you consider the stark contrast between the two candidates and their policies in all areas, this was the easiest decision ever, yet the American people still bungled it. A lot of them voted against their own financial interests.

Hey, nobody said Trumps policies are good for the working class, you really are fighting windmills here.

Bernie Sanders said that Biden had good policies enacted, but he also said it isn't enough, as the rich still get richer while the working class still suffers. More is needed. Kyle Kulinski commented it as being the tallest in kindergarden - you can brag, but it doesn't mean as much in the bigger picture.

Additionally the Democrat party didn't really show alliance to working class. If at all they got condescending messages. The actual focus of the campaign wasn't working class worries, but how republican the democrats now are: owning guns, securing border and so on.

And in your argument is an assumption baked in: the assumption that every voter Harris lost gone and vote Trump. But the reality is, that Trump pretty much got the same number of votes as 2020: he got 74 million in 2020 and now got about a million more. Harris lost 10 million votes compared to Biden 2020. So it isn't a question of Trump being better. It is more a question if the democrats are good enough, and for many voters they weren't apparently. So comparing with Trump is pointless, the question should be: how can the democrats be better.

And yes, vibes do matter more than the nitty gritty details. But either way, even if looking at the real data shows that peoples life didn't improve under Biden and the vibe of the democratic party is that they don't care about the simple worker, more that Nancy Pelosi can keep getting rich off insider trading. The vibe is, that the democratic party cares more about graduates from elite universities, than uneducated working people at minimum wage jobs.

So, you and sundin call people idiots, because they didn't act like you wanted, not acknowledging how different people are and live and how different their situation is. You are handwaving it as not rational, even though their situation isn't really improving with democratic policies as they are now. The question is how much it is worth if Don Quijote is calling people idiots, who didn't join him in the fight against windmills. Who is the idiot here?

This, another great and 100% spot in post.