| the-pi-guy said: I disagreed or would have disagreed on the basis that "Democrats abandoned these groups". I don't think that's true. But Democrats as a whole are horrible messengers on a good day. Although I personally think a lot of that comes down to Democrats having an inherently more complicated platform. For one obvious reason trying to appeal to more kinds of groups. Chrkeller mentioned Buttigieg, right? I was going to point out that Tammy Baldwin won in Wisconsin despite being openly gay and a woman, and did better than Harris did. I don't know if Buttigieg would have made a difference, but I think he's a very good messenger. |
Baldwin barely squeaked by this time against a California-born investment banker who also tried to run in 2012 but washed out in the primaries. Hovde spent his candidacy railing against single mothers and bashed Wisconsinites in 2016 for being too focused on sports and Hollywood. He used the word "deplorable," which outraged Republicans when Clinton said it, and in an unironic way. Talk about poor messaging. Even with all that, she only scraped by because she was a relatively popular incumbent. If she'd been vying with Hovde for an open seat, he'd have won.
Oh, and Hovde is now following the Trump/Lake playbook of throwing a tantrum and refusing to concede the election. He blames a third party candidate for his loss.
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