2024 US Presidential Election

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IkePoR said:

Ryuu96 said:

She lost because of the economy I.E. Inflation/Grocery Prices, Imho. But on the flip side, if there weren't so many people comfortable with knowingly voting for a fascist, she wouldn't have lost, and that's the scary thing to me. Hatred and bigotry won.

America is rotten to its core, a lot of people comfortable with fascism and a poor education system wherein people will vote for a convicted felon and man who tried to overthrow democracy because they foolishly believe he will bring the price of their bread and eggs down.

I am trying not to be mad at Americans as a whole but it's difficult, I really despise America as a country right now

This.  This is why you lose.  

I understand you're coping and seething right now.  But if liberals ever want to win anything again, you must be retrospective.   

So it's simply not appropriate for Democrats to claim the election was rigged?

Ryuu96 said:

I pointed out in the past that post-COVID inflation had battered incumbent parties across Europe so it was my primary concern with America, I don't see why America would be any different in that regard. Even parties that still won their elections in Europe suffered significant hits. People are hurting to afford basic goods and the party in charge receives the blame.

Hit Japan too whose economy is taking a beating lately, Japan's LDP lost their parliamentary majority for the first time since 2009. Right wing parties have swapped to left wing parties and left wing parties have swapped to right wing parties all across Europe, Lol. Tories (right wing) in the UK lost a 14 year old rule to the centre-left Labour, Poland's PiS lost power after 8 years. South Korea's liberal opposition party won a landslide majority. Incumbents are being absolutely hammered across the world, it's less a right/left thing and just who is currently in power.

It's smashing the current sitting party in Australia as well.

Even though the inflation was caused by the previous government and the current government is cleaning up their mess... It's hard for voters to look at things systematically or empirically and at the bigger picture, people like to look at the here-and-now.

That... And inflation has been the "excuse" for some big companies here to start price gouging, which ironically is causing even more inflation... Some crap has gone up 50-100% in price which outstrips inflation by orders of magnitude.

The next election there is definitely going to be a change of Government.

Hiku said:

If the 15m missing Democratic voters went over to vote for Trump, I can at least understand their reasoning.
But as of now around 15 million of the Democratic voters essentially just decided not to vote.
Best to do this comparison after all votes have been counted though. It might allign a bit closer in the end, but man...

It still baffles me that the USA.. The supposed shining example of democracy... It's not mandatory to vote.
But it also showcases that not-voting is a vote itself.

the-pi-guy said:

Some of that 15m will go away. But it seems like something like 10m Democrats didn't bother voting. 

I am going to assume a large chunk of that is because Kamala didn't have the time to actually campaign? It was only a couple of months.
Trump has essentially been Campaigning for the last 4 years and was elected previously, so people knew what they were getting.

Social Media (Likely underpinned by Twitter) tended to always talk about Trump, he is what gets the reactions, clicks and revenue I guess.