Russia and Ukraine flashpoint

[Ryuu96]

shavenferret said:

Ryuu96 said:

They can't because some of the components in Storm Shadow, etc, come from America, if Trump wanted to he could block those components, not only hurting Ukraine but also for example, UK's own defence, when they can no longer build anymore Storm Shadow's. Sometimes the fascists win, temporarily, as we saw in WW2. As we see with Trump winning the election. Without America's support, I don't see how it's possible for Ukraine to reclaim any more of its stolen territory.

Doing that would also compromise the defense of Europe, as you just said.  If vomitrump wanted to do that, he'd outright anger many in Europe needlessly.  Perhaps he would merely cut off aid.  

There are levels to this kind of thing and i doubt he would want to cause problems for himself.  He'll cause problems for others all day long, but #1 only counts to trump.  He's the worst kind of machiavellian but at least they are somewhat predictable.  I doubt that this may happen unless you can show me more about that.  

Only way is Europe/Ukraine debasing themselves and playing up massively to Trump's ego, I don't know how that looks, I don't know what Trump has to get in return, but he is an ego driven man, it's an extreme long shot but maybe if Putin refuses Trump's attempt for "peace" it will personally insult Trump so much that he supports Ukraine but this is a fucking pipedream scenario and very, unlikely to happen. Trump has consistently spoken shit about Europe, about Ukraine, about Zelenskyy, praised Putin, praised Kim Jong Un, made it his campaign statement to restrict Ukraine aid, outright told Orban he would cut it off entirely, etc. I don't see it being likely that we can play up to his ego enough to overcome these things.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 06 November 2024