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shavenferret said:
SecondWar said:

Sadly, I think its reached the point where Ukraine has to sue for peace (ie surrender) now. We know Trump will cut support and Europe doesn’t have the will or the way to support Ukraine on its own.

The only way for Ukraine to win now is for Europe to give a bit more, and for it to loosen the restrictions on the weapons that they give.  The only way.  We will see which way they want to go soon.   

Praying that Russia won't win.   

They can't because some of the components in Storm Shadow, etc, come from America, if Trump wanted to he could block those components, not only hurting Ukraine but also for example, UK's own defence, when they can no longer build anymore Storm Shadow's. Sometimes the fascists win, temporarily, as we saw in WW2. As we see with Trump winning the election. Without America's support, I don't see how it's possible for Ukraine to reclaim any more of its stolen territory.