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So are you going to deny the tunnels found underneath the hospitals or the hamas leaders that got killed as he found by the refugee camp that got the after effect of the missiles that killed that hamas person?

So that doesnt could has human shields? Have you ever wondered why civilians are dying?. That's cause people in hamas group hide within the public..it's been their strategy for years. If they truly cared for its people they would sign the two state solution and live with Israel . But they won't cause they enjoy blood shed!.

You use al.jazeera who is biased towards Israel and funded by qatarians..😆 Did you not watch the link from the son of one of the co founders of hamas group.That alone trumps all the links you sent.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/middleeast/gaza-tunnel-shaft-al-shifa-hospital-intl-hnk/index.html. are you going to say that's fake? Why would you need tunnels underneath the main hospital!!

https://youtu.be/hjZbApMyANs?si=84nnGfwHiZiQ80-0

They didn't build them ..it's hamas that built then

.they shoot weapons from it. Even the son of co-founder of the group said they have tunnels everywhere underneath people's home.

I highly disappointed that you re easily swayed by hamas video and fake news. I thought you were one of the smartest member in this group.

vennoJ said:

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he only thing that's well known, since it has been caught on tape many times, is the IDF using Palestinians as human shields.

There has been zero proof of Hamas using civilians as human shields. And why would they? The IDF doesn't care about civilians. They massacred over 270 civilians to rescue 4 hostages. They shot their own hostages in December. They bombed there own hostages on Oct 7th. Why would Hamas want to hide behind useless shields the IDF is all too willing to kill.

@dane007 So please provide evidence if Hamas using civilians as human shields that's not just Israeli propaganda. Since this turns up when I try to Google that
"In a post-war analysis of the conflict, Amnesty International stated that: "Contrary to repeated allegations by Israeli officials of the use of "human shields", Amnesty International found no evidence that Hamas or other Palestinian fighters directed the movement of civilians to shield military objectives..."

Same thing any aid agency says that has been in Gaza.

As for tunnels, where is the command center under Al Shifa. Where are the tunnels under schools. They have tunnels everywhere, I've seen Hamas use them in posted videos. But nothing using a school or hospital.

But there are some bunkers / basements below Al Shifa, because Israel build them...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/barak-causes-storm-by-telling-cnn-israel-helped-build-some-spaces-beneath-shifa/
They didn't find Hamas there though (some placed weapons is all the IDF could produce)


I already addressed the brain washed 'son of Hamas' before. However every accusation of him is an admission. It's what happens in Israeli society, projected onto Palestinians.


And that's not just since October 7th, it's systemic, ongoing for decades.

2021


2019
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-jerusalem/how-the-religious-right-transformed-israeli-education

2016


And so on.



It's not limited to Israel either




Israel has a very racist society which it exports to the rest of the Western world







Sure I can find videos of Palestinian children getting indoctrinated as well, but they're from the IDF, UN Watch (Israeli lobby group) or CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network, but you know that, it's where the son of Hamas video is from), not backed up by any international organization. It's pure propaganda. (And I didn't include any videos here from Palestinian sources, no need)



Btw you don't get the upper hand in negotiations by killing the ones you negotiate with. That's not how resistance works. You only make it harder to negotiate since now you're dealing with splintered factions. Which is exactly what Netanyahu wants, perpetual war.


You have been duped by Hasbara. It's never too late to learn the truth, but it's not easy for so many disinformation campaigns around.