2024 US Presidential Election

[Ryuu96]

Chrkeller said:

Ryuu96 said:

The other scenario is that there is simply a problem with Americans, or rather people.

You're underestimating how well hate sells to a lot of people and how many bigoted Americans exist, how many people are still firmly MAGA and love Trump cause he "tells it how it is" and how many people simply don't give a fuck about anything or anyone else except themselves (like their grocery prices coming down). It happens a lot in elections around the world, a far right nutjob gains millions of voters simply by banging on about, for example, immigrants being to blame for every issue in the world and they make lovely promises about how they're going to fix everyone's issues, so they vote against the current government and for the guy currently promising them the world.

There's going to be millions voting for Trump simply because they're bigoted, there's going to be millions voting for Trump being their grocery prices are high and they stupidly think Trump will fix it for them and Harris is part of the administration that they're blaming for it and there's sometimes no getting through to these people. There's millions sucked in by stupid propaganda spread by the likes of Twitter and TikTok.

If someone votes for Trump "Drill Baby Drill" and "Tariffs for Everyone" while Harris gives actual detailed economic policies, if someone votes for Trump after his disgusting attacks on migrants, if someone votes Trump after his insane ramblings, if someone votes Trump after he says Russia can kill America's allies. After he rips away women's rights, then that says a lot more about them and who they are than it does "Liberals" Imo.

Correct.  Most people are concerned about themselves and if one side has messaging all about helping others....  exactly my point.  It ain't working folks.  

And then when Harris loses Democrat voters because she says "Russia can kill our allies" "Deport all immigrants!" "They're eating our cats and dogs!" Etc, then what? Lol. Trump is in a better position to make promises about economic stuff even if they're utter bullshit because he's currently not the incumbent. Harris's policies are sound, and they do help Americans. But she's still the incumbent and people still blame her administration for things like grocery prices even if it's unfair criticism. Trump can promise them the world, Harris is expected to have already given them the world if she promises it; "Why didn't you do that before?! It's your administration!"

I'm not sure where you're getting the idea from that Harris isn't messaging about helping others, Biden almost shy'd away from talking about inflation and instead banged on about how amazing the stock market was doing, that came across as out of touch and didn't help him at all, Harris by comparison was immediately using a careful messaging on inflation and trying to come across as understanding, Biden by comparison was more "Nah we're all doing amazing bro" if you ask the average American if they care more about grocery prices or the stock market, what do you think they'll say? That's why Harris is doing a lot better than Biden on the economy.

I know Americans with stock, I don't doubt a lot of people have stock, what I do doubt is that it's a significant amount to help them in their daily lives.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 11 October 2024