2024 US Presidential Election

[Ryuu96]

Chrkeller said:

Ryuu96 said:

Yeah, but I don't think Harris campaign is being complacent, I don't think many here are being complacent, I've repeatedly said that the election will be a toss-up and very close, the pollsters averages put Harris as the slight favourite (and I trust them way more than betting firms) but it's within tossup territory so I'm still nervous but the thing is as well, pollsters and especially betting firms, can be wrong (in both directions) and betting firms especially can wildly change day to day.

Harris has been, Imo, connecting with the average person on issues that they care about, such as inflation, abortion/women's rights, democracy, the border, etc. You suggested earlier in the year that Biden bang on about the stock market...That's definitely not what the average person cares about, Lol. Harris has however, been gaining on Trump in voter issues based on recent polling, such as the economy, when polled about who you trust more with what issue.

A recent NBC News poll found that Trump led Harris by 9 points on handling the economy — down from the 22-point lead he held over Biden earlier this year. A Cook Political Report swing state survey in late September found Harris pulling even with Trump on “getting inflation under control,” although Trump still led by 5 points on whom voters would rather see “deal with the economy.” A New York Times/Siena College national poll released Tuesday found that the economy is the No. 1 issue influencing likely voters, with abortion a distant second and immigration just behind that.

She's not going to erode this by talking about the stock market, she's in the administration of an incumbent during inflation and voters have short term memories, Trump inherited Obama's economy and trashed it all but got to blame it on COVID. Harris by all accounts is doing well in decreasing that gap, far better than Biden ever did, who did constantly bang on about the stock market.

I think my point is, given the competition and craziness, it shouldn't be a tossup.  Liberals need to ask themselves why it is a tossup against easy targets...  there is something off.  If you can't beat "eating cats and dogs" and "weather control" there is a big problem with the platform.

The other scenario is that there is simply a problem with Americans, or rather people.

You're underestimating how well hate sells to a lot of people and how many bigoted Americans exist, how many people are still firmly MAGA and love Trump cause he "tells it how it is" and how many people simply don't give a fuck about anything or anyone else except themselves (like their grocery prices coming down). It happens a lot in elections around the world, a far right nutjob gains millions of voters simply by banging on about, for example, immigrants being to blame for every issue in the world and they make lovely promises about how they're going to fix everyone's issues, so they vote against the current government and for the guy currently promising them the world.

There's going to be millions voting for Trump simply because they're bigoted, there's going to be millions voting for Trump because their grocery prices are high and they stupidly think Trump will fix it for them and Harris is part of the administration that they're blaming for it and there's sometimes no getting through to these people. There's millions sucked in by stupid propaganda spread by the likes of Twitter and TikTok.

If someone votes for Trump "Drill Baby Drill" and "Tariffs for Everyone" while Harris gives actual detailed economic policies, if someone votes for Trump after his disgusting attacks on migrants, if someone votes Trump after his insane ramblings, if someone votes Trump after he says Russia can kill America's allies. After he rips away women's rights, then that says a lot more about them and who they are than it does "Liberals" Imo.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 11 October 2024