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curl-6 on 08 October 2024
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firebush03 said:
curl-6 said:

I miss the PS3.

Both the console and its games had such a strong sense of personality; edgy, badass, and powerful.
Things like microtransaction, GaaS, season passes, etc hadn't yet become the plague they are today, games didn't take so long to make so we got more of them, and they weren't so watered down by trying to appeal to the broadest possible audience.

I'm uninformed on the history of PS3, though my understanding was (a.) it lacked third-party support (due to an overly complicated development system(?)), (b.) it was severely criticized early on for its aggressive price-for-entry ($599 in 2006 is rather unhinged), (c.) etc., and it is for these reasons why many considered PS3 the worst of the original four PlayStation systems. My question is whether PS5 is doing better or worse than PS3? In almost all ways, it seems PS3 triumphs. No GaaS, no season passes, less price gouging, more games, etc...though is it possible the rosy-tinted glasses have altered what is reality?

Maybe this is a question for a different forum, but your comment here addresses a topic which always has me thinking...

The PS3 definitely had some problems; most games looked and ran worse on it compared to 360, it took three years to get down to a reasonable price, and the controller was a relic of the 90s.

I still do consider it an excellent system though, on the strength of its overall library, its exclusives, and what a powerhouse it was for its time.

Leynos said:

People forget that the 7th gen introduced us to MTX. Online passes. Content on the disc is locked out through paid DLC even tho it was on the disc already. When we started seeing big studios closing left and right. Games like Asura's Wrath Capcom sold the ending of the game separate from the rest of the game as DLC. PS3 installs were awful and slow. PS3 had horrible controllers. Capcom/Konami and others were bastardizing classic series with terrible Western attempts at reboots. There was a stigma against Japan in culture in the West and in games at that time. I like the 7th gen for a lot of reasons myself. I like TPS genre become really good. A lot of fun B games. I like the PS3 but yeah a lot of 3rd party games looked and ran much worse. It wasn't a badass system. It was plagued with issues as was that generation in general. However, the modern landscape is so poor people now have rose-tinted glasses and revisionist history ignoring the major problems that generation started. This era makes even the 7th gen look as good as the 4th-5th gen levels of greatness by comparison.

I didn't forget that, they was just far, far less aggressive and pervasive than today.

While the transition to HD was tough on Japanese devs, I also think there were quite a lot of good Japanese games in the 7th gen; Mario Galaxy 1/2, Xenoblade, Zelda Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Puppeteer, Monster Hunter, The Last Story, Sin & Punishment 2, Pandora's Tower, Lost Odyssey, Muramasa, Dragon's Crown, No More Heroes 1/2, Kirby's Epic Yarn & Return to Dreamland...