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lpj8 said:
MikeB said:

@ NJ5

The PS3 didn't outsell the 360 in 2007, you're right that the PS3 will most likely win 2008 though.


Despite a few months less sales in Europe or more for some parts of the world it did so globally.

- Microsoft sold 4.3 million 360s worldwide in the last quarter of 2007, making it 7.3 million in total for the year.
- Sony sold 4.9 million PS3 worldwide in the last quarter of 2007, totalling 8.83 million for the year.

This is the most objective measure, the PS3 outsold the 360 to retail. Of course there would be PS3 units on the shelf compared to nothing before for Europe and other countries (minus the countries where the platform launched in 2006). But more than 1.5 million units difference is enough to come to conclusions.

You can't use the claim that the only reason this would be the case because the PS3 was much more in stock at the end of 2007, as for the first quarter of 2008 the PS3 also sold 1 million more units to retail than the 360 did during this usually slow period. If the 360 was low in stock and the PS3 was high in stock at retailers, more 360s would have been sold in Q1 2008 than PS3s.

Regarding your last post, it's quite misleading to say that the 360 is stalled in Europe. Last I checked, the price cut did give it a sustained boost, it is selling well although not at PS3's level.


269 Euro for a 20 GB 360 Premium (199 Euro for an Arcade model) vs 399 Euro for a 40 GB PS3, still the PS3 outsells the 360 in Europe. The recent price cut had a very minor effect on European sales. Of course without it, the 360 would have sold even worse.

Where are you getting your numbers?

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 06th Jan 2007 to 05th Jan 2008:

Console PS3 X360
Total
7,944,398
8,130,365

He was using the shipment figures. Which isn't the same as sales from retailers to gamers.

His way is biased toward the PS3 because of 2 reasons.
1. PS3 was basically starting from scratch, it had just launched before 2007 and therefore there wasn't much need for huge stock shipments until during 2007.

2. Microsoft in a bid to be "first to 10 million" had massively over-supplied for Christmas 2006, and as such they barely needed to ship any consoles in the first quarter of 2007 at all.