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Ryuu96 said:
Cobretti2 said:

Exactly it basically comes down to hitting closer to home. There is like another 7 or so genocides going on in the world atm, but we aren't talking about them simply because they are so distant.

Also, Imo, it is the conflict which has the most potential to escalate into something further, nukes have been "good" at deterring nations in the past but now I feel like it's becoming a double-edged sword where America is terrified of the fact that Russia has nukes and so we're almost sending a message to the world that as long as you have nukes, you can do whatever you want. The size of Ukraine is huge and it is essentially backed by NATO, what message does it send out to the world if Russia wins in Ukraine? That America and Europe are no longer reliable allies.

It would not only embolden Russia further (Georgia and Moldova would likely be next) but it would also embolden China with Taiwan, Azerbaijan with Armenia, etc. Countries would seek nukes for defence (such as Poland) but countries would also seek nukes knowing that if they have nukes they can do whatever they like because nobody will stand up to the nuclear holding country. People mention how Iran and North Korea are emboldened lately, they're emboldened because of Russia, if you want to weaken them then start by weakening Russia and when Russia is defeated and less able to project power across the globe, these countries are also further isolated and weakened.

Iran sends Russia thousands of drones, God knows what they get in return, likely weapons which will be used to kill and threaten other countries, there's no need to attack Iran, instead deal with their supplier which is Russia, takedown the leader because Iran and North Korea are only followers, both are irrelevant and weak unless Russia backs them up.

Agree with everything you saying. 

Th last paragraphs an interesting one. I know Iranians who are PRAYING that Israel retaliates for the recent attack because they are sick of being under an oppressed extremist Islamic government. They told me most the high officials went into hiding after their strike and hide behind their people (aka shields) and that the only people that will suffer are the people, but they hope that the suffering of people will cause the rest of the country to start a revolution.

I won't bag out that people want to believe in God and that they hope there is meaning to their soul beyond our death, but fuck religion has fucked up human advancement for centuries. We need to separate Religion from politics and any extreme offshoot, whether it come from Judaism, Christianity or Islam needs to be eradicated before it grows. there are plenty of Muslim communities who  are in Australia that don't come from the middle east, and they are some of the loveliest people you will ever meet. The middle east needs a reform on all sides, the extremists sects need to be eradicated by their own people.