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SvennoJ on 02 October 2024
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the-pi-guy said:
firebush03 said:

“That’s why your assumptions and conclusions are wrong.” sounds like you are open to discussion, and not just one-sided agreement with your claims lol. In any case, we’ll see if your assertion is or is not correct come November.

What you have to understand, though, is that uncontested voters literally went out of their way to vote against Biden in the primary. They are making a statement: These aren’t ppl looking at which side is the lesser-of-two-evils, these are ppl who are *protesting* a war. If these countries are what you call home (which, in the case of the much of the uncontested voters, they are), you aren’t gonna be focused on damage control. Your people are being executed under the assistance of the party which you would be voting for: You and they have far different voting motives.

A key part of that is the lack of stakes though. It was not going to change whether Biden was nominated. 

They can show that they're opposed to the issue, and not lose out on anything else. Which is not the case with the election. 

People that care about woman's rights, trans rights, climate change, etc are still going to show up at election time. 

Yes, let's hope most swing votes realize that there is much more at stake.

For Gaza/Lebanon Trump or Harris doesn't really seem to matter much. While Biden/Harris call for ceasefires and restraint, they're actions speak a lot louder. They signed off on another 9 Billion in military aid for Israel just before the Lebanon ground invasion, after the assassinations and pager attacks.

What more can Trump do than what's already happening...

And there is morality at stake. Some people won't vote for either Trump or Harris based on morality. Abstention or protest vote on Jill Stein is also a vote, even though the US' electoral system ignores them. Same as at the primaries.

But yes, there is so much more at stake :/ Even though Trump will further weaken the USA, the way in which that will happen will cause a lot of collateral damage in and outside the USA. Harris at least has a bigger chance of keeping the country together. Trump will drive the USA further apart next to making Russia more dangerous again, letting Ukraine succumb to Russia's war of attrition.