LegitHyperbole said:
SvennoJ said:
Look at the Israel-Palestine conflict what that leads to. The Oslo accords were basically that, keep parts of the Westbank and look good in the process. Israel also kept parts of Lebanon and Syria after 'leaving' those wars, and now full scale war again.
Putin is a war criminal with ICC arrest warrant outstanding
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-ukraine-icc-judges-issue-arrest-warrants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and
The last thing we need is to make Putin look good so he, or his followers can (and will) try again.
The Ukraine really is as simple as Russia needs to fully withdraw from all Ukrainian territory. Then sort things out.
The struggles in Ukraine started pretty much at the same time as the struggles in Palestine
https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/Transcarpathia-in-Czechoslovakia
In the aftermath of WW1.
Ukraine has declared independence since 1991, Russia needs to leave them alone.
The fault for the long duration of this war is on the West. Desperately trying to keep the status quo (money making status quo) and unwilling to send troops to defend Ukraine. UNSC can't do anything because of Russia's veto. So the West is just trickling military aid to basically turn it into a proxy war against Russia instead of liberating Ukraine.
Call me cynical but US and Europe are pretty much using Ukraine to renew their military equipment (send the old stuff to Ukraine) while using Ukraine to weaken Russia. Using Ukraine as a reason to expand NATO instead of focusing on getting Russia out of Ukraine. |
Your last sentence. Exactly. I don't care what the fault is and with whom, the main goal should be to have it stop at this point. Not throw another 8 billion of military equipment and munitions in what's basically become attrition warfare. |
K. So lets cut off all aid to Ukraine and let Russia slaughter them and take all the way up to Kyiv and down to Odesa, which is still their goal, because Kyiv is the capital and they want to regime change Ukraine and the only reason they currently aren't occupying Kyiv right now is because Ukraine beat them back and they want to take up to Odesa to connect their forces to their Russian forces currently illegally occupying Moldova (WOW MUST BE NATO AGAIN) and to cut Ukraine off from the sea and extend their own Black Sea control.
Congratulations on rewarding 21st Century Hitler and throwing Ukraine to their death, I don't care if it's what you intend to suggest, just like you don't care whose fault it is for the war, it is what your suggestion will result in. You and everyone like you are nothing but a bunch of modern day Neville Chamberlains who seemingly did not learn a damn thing from WW2 or even from modern conflicts such as Chechnya and Russia's invasion of Crimea in 2014.
