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NATO Nukes

There are no countries in NATO who border Russia, currently in possession of nuclear weapons, the closest is Türkiye who is a "nuclear weapon sharing state" but Türkiye does not border Russia, it does however border a CSTO country (Russia's own version of NATO), Armenia, who are currently threatening to leave CSTO because Russia is not protecting them against Azerbaijan.

There is however, Russia, who does posses nuclear weapons, who border 3 NATO countries (Finland, Estonia, Latvia). There is also Kaliningrad (Russia) as the HQ of the Baltic Fleet and in possession of nuclear capable weapons, who border 2 more NATO countries (Lithuania, Poland). There is Belarus also bordering Latvia, Lithuania and Poland, who are currently holding Russian nukes too so spare me the hypocrisy.

Russia is scared of NATO nukes that don't even exist on Russia's border so for that reason Ukraine isn't allowed to join NATO but for some reason Russia is allowed nukes on NATO's border and also allowed to turn Kaliningrad into a militarised little enclave that sits between Poland and the Baltics. Yeah, that makes sense.

It's fucking irrelevant where the nukes are, whether they're near the border or not, a Ballistic Missile has a range in the thousands of KMs, nuclear missiles have delivery methods of ground, air launched or sea launched. We could slip a submarine in the Black Sea, we could slip a submarine in the Baltic Sea, we could send a missile over from the fucking UK if we wanted to. If we wanted to hit Russia with nuclear missiles, we sure as shit don't need to border them, it would be just as easy to do it without bordering them, it's called intercontinental ballistic missile for a reason.

Putin's Excuses

Putin has used various excuses to invade Ukraine, from "NATO" to "Ukraine Nazis" to "Biolabs" to straight up whipping out a map which he used to claim that Ukraine doesn't exist as a country and is a vassal state of Russia and people still buy into the NATO bullshit.

Putin's NATO

Russia has its own version of NATO called CSTO, if they weren't such a massive dickhead to everyone then maybe more people would have joined it. Even now Armenia is threatening to leave CSTO because Russia is letting them be fucked by Azerbaijan.

NATO

  • NATO has never attacked a country for wanting to join CSTO.
  • NATO has never attacked Russia.
  • Article 5 has only ever been invoked once, by America, in response to 9/11.
  • NATO is a defensive alliance.

America did not force Finland, Sweden, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czech Republic, etc...To join NATO, they did so largely because of Russian aggression because Russia has committed horrific acts on most of these countries throughout its history and they are scared of Russia for that reason. They don't all hate Russia for no reason, they don't hate Russia because America told them to, stop treating them like stupid children who don't understand what they're doing just because they aren't a Western Country.

The Eastern Countries aren't the strongest supporters of Ukraine for no reason and it's in fact the West (America and Germany) who are being cowardly in dealing with Russia and holding back while the Eastern Countries are asking us "Wtf are you doing, we need to defeat Russia" contrary to the belief of people parroting Russian propaganda, America has been annoyingly cautious in dealing with Russia.

Ukraine NATO

America and Germany already blocked their entry to NATO in the early 2000s. Ukraine was nowhere close to joining NATO to begin with, especially due to Russia invading Ukraine in 2014 via Donbas and Crimea, the biggest mistake some make with this war is thinking it started in 2022 when it in fact started in 2014.

What did we do in 2014? Exactly what is being suggested now, aka do nothing, Obama was a coward on tackling Russia and basically gave them a slap on the wrist and moved on, did us being Neville Chamberlains back in 2014 stop Russia from invading further? No it did not. We went back to business as usual, trading with Russia, trying to be friendly with Russia, and then they spat in our face and invaded the rest of Ukraine.

NATO isn't ran solely by America, the HQ is even in Europe and NATO requires a "Yes" from every single country for 1 single country to join, at least one country (likely America and Germany ironically) would have said "No" out of fear of conflict with Russia.

Zelenskyy is currently signalling that despite Ukraine wanting to join NATO, as is their right as an independent country, that he may be willing to drop the issue in exchange for security agreements, the other with that is they are only good if actually enforced, Ukraine already had security agreements with US, UK and Russia in exchange for giving up their nukes, guess who broke that security agreement? Oh, yeah, Russia.

Russia's Other Conflicts/Invasions

We already looked the other way with Crimea + Donbas, Chechnya, Georgia, Moldova, etc. Countries which Russia has invaded and taken over for various bullshit reasons and let me tell you, Chechnya and Georgia definitely weren't joining NATO so what's the excuse for those countries? Putin just happens to have history of invading and taking over a bunch of countries because everyone is being mean to the poor fella.

Lets not forget sabotage of military facilities across Europe, violating NATO airspace with missiles and drones, the downing of MH17, using deadly nerve agents on UK soil; What did we do? Again, what is being suggested here, we looked the other way in desire for "peace" and said "Oh Russia, you're so bad" and went immediately back to trade deals and trying to be their friend.

How much is Europe expected to look the other way on Russia's sicko actions? We spent years trying to lick Russia's ass and it got us nowhere, it only emboldened Putin to be even more aggressive because you know why? Being a coward emboldens bad people, if nobody stands up against them then why the hell would they stop doing what they're doing?