LegitHyperbole said:
8 more billion. I want to see Ukraine get it's country back but I also want to see this damn war stop and a peaceful solution to be made, I'm conflicted I guess. I just don't see how 8 billion more worth of bombing, Death and destruction is gonna end this. I wish he'd stay out after a certain point, that's clearly what Russia wants at this point, a way out. If NATO came out and said hey, we'll stop funding Ukraine if you back off and go back to doing your own thing and regain some sanity, we don't have to say it in words, we'll gesture you to have an out and you can look good in doing so. We won't too close to the border and you have nothing to fear with Eastern European countries being part of Nato. Can we all admit this was an awful mistake and move on, let's get the farmland of Ukraine back up and running and some trade going as a handshake. ...I'm probably being naive. But I know one thing. 8 billion more death machines ain't gonna help a thing. It's just shit. |
$8bn of which around half was set to expire at the end of September so might as well use it now.
"I want to see Ukraine get it's country back but I also want to see this damn war stop and a peaceful solution to be made"
The only way Ukraine is getting its country back is by force, we tried peaceful solutions and Russia threw them back in our face. We tried to avoid violence during WW2 and look at that where that got us, America tried to be isolationist during WW2 and look at where that got them. We're dealing with a modern day Hitler and your suggestion is for us to be Neville Chamberlains.
"I just don't see how 8 billion more worth of bombing, Death and destruction is gonna end this."
How will abandoning Ukraine end the war? Why the fuck would Russia not simply take the rest of Ukraine if we stopped supplying them with equipment TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. Russia has zero intention of stopping, they've made clear REPEATEDLY that their goals are unchanged. They (Putin) wants all of Ukraine under Russia's thumb.
I wish he'd stay out after a certain point
Congrats on throwing Ukraine under the bus and letting Russia slaughter the rest of the country.
That's clearly what Russia wants at this point
Yes, Russia wants the countries supporting Ukraine against their genocidal campaign to stop supporting Ukraine, no shit.
A way out.
Russia has a way out, get the fuck out of Ukraine and they'll be no more war and the sanctions will be lifted.
If NATO came out and said hey, we'll stop funding Ukraine if you back off and go back to doing your own thing and regain some sanity, we don't have to say it in words, we'll gesture you to have an out and you can look good in doing so.
For the 50,000th time this war was never about NATO but simply an excuse to invade. Did you not read my post at all in the other thread? Wasn't it you I already explained this all to?
We won't too close to the border and you have nothing to fear with Eastern European countries being part of Nato.
For the love of God, NATO already borders Russia via Finland, Estonia, Latvia and by extension of Kaliningrad; Lithuania and Poland.
It is in fact Eastern European countries that have something to fear, not Russia, they joined NATO of their own free will because of fucking Russia's aggression. It's not everyone else's fault that Russia is a violent bloodthirsty country. Eastern European countries hate Russia for good reason.
I'm probably being naive.
Yeah, you are, and you never consider what Ukraine wants or Ukraine's independence, Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to join NATO, Ukraine shouldn't be allowed allies, Ukraine shouldn't be allowed this and that, NATO borders Russia because of big bad America and not because Eastern European countries wanted to be in NATO.
You're speaking on this situation from the privilege of being from Ireland, actually try to consider how those in Eastern Europe feel.
But I know one thing. 8 billion more death machines ain't gonna help a thing. It's just shit.
Yes it will, it helps Ukraine to defend themselves from Russian aggression. If anything we're not going far enough, I've been very critical of Biden's foreign policy in recent months because he has been too cowardly on helping Ukraine against Russia, for the love of fuck did we not learn a damn thing from WW2 and desperately trying to seek "peace" while some dude in another country uses all kinds of excuses as to why he's slaughtering the people of other countries.
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