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XtremeBG said:
Phenomajp13 said:

No, I just directly point out obvious downplay and disengious posts. That's what your post about the Switch all come down too. Your post is nothing more than it's a handheld and that's why it's selling so much. You then cherrypick DS, a platform obviously inflated by the same means you use to disqualify Wii. If you don't disqualify Wii, then you have to admit PS and Xbox should be benefitting from the base that was brought in by Wii similar to your claim of Switch is benefitting from DS. You also don't get to determine what is or isn't competition. Switch has competition from the home consoles and the PC market including the handheld PCs but of course that doesn't count because reasons. These are nothing more than excuses that neither one of us can determine, the only thing we can say is Switch will soon become the highest selling platform in history despite you saying it wouldn't pull it off knowing it had no competition. Explain why you knew a platform that has the entire handheld market to itself with no competition and over 240 million consumers apparently and just now you realize all of this could lead to Switch selling the most and you still doubted it? Everything you are saying now are all things you knew last year and still doubted it? 

First of all learn how to write a post and explain the things, cuz honestly I didn't understand more than half of your post, and what are you really trying to tell. Throwing some names here and there and accusations. Why you take it so personally first of all ? Is the Switch your own product that you created ? Are you the president of Nintendo ? I can determine, speak, and compare to whatever I want to, and you can tell me nothing. I can do everything. Like it or not. @javi741 first gave the example of PS+XBOX, because of that I followed with that examp. No one is excluding your precious Wii. I simply write down one different point of view that was for the handheld market in general (putting 7th gen handhelds vs 9th gen handheld hardware numbers without any context about success or anything like that), nothing to bash the Switch, and I repeat 10 time it's successful console, what more do you want ? and after all that you continue to attack on personal level. Just get a life. If I write down here what I think of you, I will get ban forever, trust me... You even started to write to yourself, 2 posts in a row .. no comment. And please don't explain me what sells and what people are buying, I have worked in a video games store for more than 3 years, so I think I know little more than you about that. And I don't need to prove it since debate with you is pointless. I would use another words but they are not okay for here. And please don't talk me about senses and biases, cuz we all saw how you went into argument with so many people here in a couple of threads before. Just save your words.

I thought I explained it well enough but I'll try again. You are free to compare whatever you want just like I'm free to critize your comparison. Javi threw out an interesting Stat because who would've thought the market leader would get trounced like this? Switch challenging PS and Xbox combined is quite surprising along with outselling PS2 (which you doubt til this very day). 

You obviously were offended and did what console warriors do, cherrypick data to form excuses to downplay. That's the whole point of your handheld market nonsense, such as 240 million consumers and only Switch can sale to them.

What makes your nonsense so apparent is the fact that you knew all of this before and still elected to doubt the Switch could outsell PS2? That makes no sense, if you always knew the Switch had these advantages such as no competition in the far larger handheld market, then why did you ever doubt the Switch could surpass PS2 with all of the Switch's advantages? It just seems like you simply made all of this nonsense up to downplay the fact that you are officially giving in and you are coping with being wrong. Your first signs of this were in another thread after the PS5 Pro price tag reveal where you state 'it (PS5 Pro) or PS5 with a price cut will not be competitive enough to stop Switch", do you recall this post? Kind of a weird post when you think about it because remember Switch has no handheld competition regardless. The post is below, what does the PS5 Pro have to do with Switch? Switch surpassing PS2 must be a real nightmare for you! So that right there was the first sign of you giving in and in this thread was your coping. Now all of a sudden the Switch has unfair advantages like the massive cherrypicked 240 million handheld market and no competition. Do you even realize how your logic isn't even consistent? You literally claim Switch has no competition in the handheld market but you were hoping better pricing on home consoles (PS5/Xbox) would negatively effect Switch's ability to outsell PS2? Are they competition or not?

XtremeBG in the PS5 Pro reveal thread: "With the facts now that there won't be price cut soon for the PS5, and even the price going up more than expected, for both XBOX and Playstation, and with having no major competition for the next 2-3 years close to a price point of 300$ I am now more inclined to believe the Switch may very well reach 160M and pass it. With those high prices from both Microsoft and Sony (new SKUs of their consoles releases not at the same price and pricecut of the old ones, but instead maintaining the old ones at the same price and launching the new ones at very high prices) I am also inclined to believe the Switch 2 will launch at least at 400$ if not more, both cases of which will result in still decent sales for the Switch 1. This was the last thing that could prevent the Switch from reaching and passing 160M (or at least make it harder) in my opinion,"

Last edited by Phenomajp13 - on 25 September 2024