Are we on the early stages of World War 3. (Poll)

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SvennoJ said:

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Exactly. Money is more important. Oil is enough to go to war, Taiwan is exceptionally significant to the US and China for computer tech. The SCS is also of great financial value. No body ever wants war, the US tried to be isolationist during early WW2 and they simply couldn't, it came to meet them. Isreal has gone rouge. Russia has gone rogue since 2014. The economy is collapsing almost and a war economy would save people a lot of financial ruin. 

Israel can't do much without US support and the US has made it clear they do not want to be dragged into a war with Iran. Israel can still do a lot of damage in the ME but it won't spread into a world war.

Iran also does not want a war with Israel or the USA. They turned the retaliation foe the Israeli bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus into a big light show after informing the US and allies of what they were sending and when. Iran also still hasn't responded to the assassination of Hamas leader Haniyeh. Iran wants to keep their deterrence (they're bound to do something) yet will be careful not to escalate.

Russia has little left to fight with, they have their hands full with Ukraine. The US is happy to keep the grind going, let Ukraine keep killing Russian draft soldiers while telling Ukraine not to escalate.

China is looking more for economic power. Last they did was broker a trade deal between Iran and Saudi-Arabia. Why would they want to blow that up again. China is its own economic powerhouse. They don't need Taiwan, but it's an ego thing for President Xi like Ukraine is for Putin. China could still take Taiwan as the West has shown they won't do much. However China has too much to lose from sanctions.

War economy does not save people from financial ruin. Over 40,000 businesses are going bankrupt in Israel due to the war(s). The only ones profiting from war are the ones making the weapons.

The US would do well in a war economy as long as the war is over seas. The factories are ready to be converted to weapons manufacturing quick and easy. Already they are making money selling arms, no? 

It's more than an ego thing with Xi, they really want Tawian back, it's a matter that same as here in Ireland, many want the Northern province reunited with the republic but in Chinas case this won't be as easy as Hong Kong was to snatch (remember that, no? That's the idea) They will try to get it back and the west will not allow this wheter it's Trump or Kamala. There's two great books you should read if you're interested by Robert Spalding. Called Stealth War and a follow up called War without rules. It explains in great detail how China operates and how this would be difficult for the west to confront. They're already fighting by proxy even if they won't admit it, Ukraine and Isreal are about as much as the US fighting China than themselves fighting. China has the US wasted resources backing these fights while China is sitting back relaxing. 

Again, I say this is a new age of warfare, one with the internet and things that weren't even dreamt of in ww2. Operations like that with the walkie talkies. Stuxnet. The recent russian propaganda a few weeks back where they tricked a load of fools into propagandizing for them in the US like Tim Pool. And so on. 

It could play out very oddly. Unmanned drones attacking unmanned drones for example. Hacks on infrastructure that would do severe damage like stuxnet. If they don't go to a hot war like in the past and we are in a cold War now or enter a cold war we'll never get out of it cuase of the Internet, it'll be forever.