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rapsuperstar31 5 days ago
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IkePoR said:
JWeinCom said:

 It's like if you were at a restaurant and you had to eat one of two sandwiches. The waiter tells you sandwich A is covered in arsenic and sandwich B does not contain any lethal or dangerous poisons. Naturally, people with common sense will choose sandwich B, without having to know anything more.

Then someone comes along and says, "Wow, I can't believe all of these people are eating sandwich B. They don't even know what kind of cheese is on sandwich B or how many calories are in it. Sociologists should really study why all of these people are eating sandwich B. Der her her."

Not that I couldn't point to specific policies I approve of, which I might do if you could point all of Trump's great policies, but the fact that Trump tried to end democracy in America is a pretty damn good reason to vote for a candidate who has not tried to end American democracy (and also he promotes racist conspiracy theories, joked about how Epstein who is a great guy according to Trump likes women on the young side, was found liable for sexual assault and subsequent defamation of his victim, is a convicted felon, shared classified US documents, is a pathological liar, etc etc). Please explain the flaw in that viewpoint. 

Would you look at that - more Trump derangement.  You know, for people who hate "sandwich A" so much, you sure do like talking about it.

Now, back to my statement: I've found it difficult to meet one American that says they're having a better time over the last four years verses the prior four. You didn't address this, many leftists don't either.  

When I ask why they'd vote for Kamala, there's lots of platitudes(check) and diverting(check), before finally falling on "Trump's just x."(check) No policy they like or often even know about the candidate chosen for them, no honest fandom for their candidate, no moral reasoning for their candidate. They just hate the other guy.(check, check, check) 

I see this continues to be the case on these forums.  How disappointing.

Torillian said:

When you have a choice between two options then it is perfectly reasonable to make your choice based on avoiding the more poor option. If you want me to go over what I like about progressive policies: I'm voting Kamala so that if someone leaves the supreme court a progressive is there to pick a replacement, I'm also voting for someone that will push for abortion rights on the federal stage and wants to continue Biden's work on student loan restructuring like the SAVE plan. When the choice is between a threat to democracy and a standard politician who largely agrees with my left leaning point of view then the choice is crazy simple. 

Hey Weincom look, someone else who hates sandwich A talking about sandwich A!  Again!  At least they actually shared some policy this time.

So 1. the potential for a progressive supreme court, 2. federal abortion rights and 3. IDRs. In other words - control, hedonism and free stuff.  Doesn't sound very American to me but I'm digressing.

1. Is there hard evidence to a better country under a progressive ruling supreme court? Compared to what?

2. Why ought we prescribe federal abortion freedom when America is far below replacement rate?

3. At what cost?  Is there a number on the lack of accountability?

You're ridiculous, you keep ignoring the covid caused inflation.  That is the only reason people don't feel better than they did 4 years ago.  It doesn't matter if it was Obama, Trump, or Biden, my stocks increased substantially under all 3.  Covid happened under Trump, the lock downs, no toilet paper and all that pure hell and that was under Trump.  Your damn right my life is significantly better than it was 4 years ago today when we couldn't find toilet paper, and million of Americans died.  Millions of American families no longer speak to each other, parents and their kids just broke up over Trumps complete control over them and the lack of empathy that parents all of a sudden had.  Republicans refused to seat a supreme court member for a whole year during Obama's last year because republicans controlled the Senate and said the new president deserved to seat them.  The same thing happened to Trump a few months before the election and the same republican controlled senate said screw you Democrats we are seating a supreme court justice in the next few months.  The Supreme court justice Trump installed took away Roe vs Wade.  Without Trump Roe vs Wade doesn't get overturned.  Since getting overturned states are making abortion illegal, and women are bleeding to death because it is illegal to get an abortion now in all case even if they were raped or if the baby isn't gong to survive and it will kill the mother.  Worse the states will arrest you if you try to go to another state to get an abortion.  Million and millions of Americans hate each other now, and it's because of Trump.  The peace of mind Biden provided to everyone's mental health is absolutely better than it was under Trump.  Under Trump these racists maga's felt emboldened to beat up random Asian people or immigrants on the street like they did when Trump.  That died down while Biden lead us.  Under Trump, thousands of his minions decided to storm the capital and try to install Trump as the president illegally.  Trump lied about an election he lost by 8 some million votes, and tried his best to steal the election/job 81 million Americans fired him from.  Is America better off than it was 4 years ago, 100% in every single way except the increase in costs that you see everywhere...everywhere not just America!