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SanAndreasX on 12 September 2024
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TallSilhouette said:
JWeinCom said:

This is why I think the Republican party will collapse after Trump, hopefully, loses.

The maga people are like Trump. Psychotic and narcissistic. What they do they do primarily to feed their egos. It's why so many former Trump people write books about him and speak out against him. It's not because they were fooled and saw the light. They knew exactly who he was and rolled with it until it no longer served them.  Then they realized the best way to get attention was to speak out against Trump and get some adulation from that crowd.

The thing that's holding this together is Trump. We know that many people, like JD Vance, despise him privately. But he is the head of the cult, and they can't speak against him.

If Trump loses again, there's no way he runs again at 82 unless he runs as a third party. And there is no heir apparent. All the whack jobs are going to try to become the next Trump like a dystopian version of the Apprentice. I don't think there is any way a viable Republican party emerges. 

This is my hope, but I'm not so sure. I see three possibilities if Trump fails to win or steal the 2024 election.

1. The party cannot coalesce around a new leader, irreconcilably divided between the MAGA and old GOP wings, and eats itself.

2. The party finally abandons MAGA and goes back to at least an appearance of more respectability, getting behind a candidate like Nikki Haley.

3. The party manages to find a MAGA candidate who has the low brow charisma that Trump had and the competence that he did not. Many thought this could be DeSantis but that obviously didn't pan out. Unless someone surprises us out of the ether, the only person I could potentially see doing this is Tucker Carlson.

Obviously I'd prefer 1, tolerate 2, and loathe 3.

Nikki Haley needs to go away, too. She's just as bad as any of them. She has the principles of a wind sock. They need to look towards people like Mike DeWine or Charlie Baker. Nikki Haley still carries evangelical politics with her, and that's 90 percent of the Republican Party's problem right there. Until they start extirpating evangelical politics from the party's DNA, we'll still keep having the same problems.