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Ryuu96 on 12 September 2024
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rapsuperstar31 said:
LegitHyperbole said:

I'm not asking for them to throw Ukraine under the bus, I'm asking for a world where America gets out of it completely and we actually settle this ourselves. Russias biggest request is NATO not encroaching on their border, why can't we give them that? So many people have to die but we can't give them something so basic? Why?

They are stoking the flames though, they're stoking them since the start. I'm as sick with Americans as I am with Russia. They fucking escalate and have excavated every part of this nonsense when there is EASY diplomatic responses to ease tensions. Easy ones. Take NATO away from the border, reduce military bases, be fucking civil. 

Russia doesn't scare America one bit, the American media wants Americans scared. Fuck them both.

Not once have I seen any respect for young Russian soldiers sent into this shit, or any empathy towards them at all. Same old shit, kill the young for the old man's mistakes. I want to see Kamala/Trump come out and say this is an immense fuck up but we can fix it outside of the Battlefield, there's no need for young people to die. We can sort this over the table. 

Countries are allowed to be allies with whoever they choose.  Looking into joining NATO doesn't give Russia permission to attack Ukraine.  Was the United States trying to get Georgia to join NATO before Russia invaded them?  It doesn't matter who America allies with, hell if Russia wants to hold hands and be allies we would have no issues being friends. The USA has no intentions of attacking Russia or China, and neither did Ukraine.

Exactly...This argument is so goddamn frustrating.

When has NATO ever invaded a country because they wanted to join CSTO (Hello, Russia has its own equivalent of NATO, it's called the CSTO, it's not NATO's fault that barely anyone wants to join it because Russia is hated by half the world for their consistent past actions).

Did we invade Belarus because they as a CSTO country border NATO? Did we invade Armenia because they as a CSTO country border Türkiye? What's funny about that last example is Armenia is threatening to leave CSTO because even they are sick of Russia's bullshit now.

Maybe if Russia wasn't such a dickhead, more people would want to join CSTO.

And you're damn right, if Russia wasn't such a prick to everyone, there probably could have been a future where Russia joined NATO but they've never shown sympathy for how they treated the former Soviet states, they've never tried to fix relationships with them, they threaten countries like Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia on practically a daily basis.

If Russia wasn't such a dick, maybe the former Soviet states wouldn't have ran into NATO's arms out of fear, maybe they wouldn't have turned Ukraine into a country that's going to want nothing more than to see Russia dead for at least the next 100 years, maybe we could have had peace in Europe. But no, it's Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czech Republic, Finland, Norway, Denmark, UKs, Frances, Americas, etc...Faults, Lol.

Tell Russia to get the fuck out of Moldova too which they are currently illegally occupying.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 12 September 2024