Concord is Sony's biggest failure in gaming history.

[Tober]

the-pi-guy said:

Tober said:

You're making this big assumption that there is some basic checklist of black/white/asian etc, that needs to be checked off.Â

Tober: What was my assumption in my first post? You answer my question by referring to my second post. I am curious what assumption I had in the first one.

I'm sure on the level of media companies, a lot of them have something just like that. But that isn't the goal that people are pushing towards.

Tober: Then why are they? It misses the mark making it essentially useless. What is that goal, you are referring to?

What is wrong with it, and what is a strawman requires the same answer:

No one is saying that skin color is more important than ethnicity. 

Tober: Above you said something like on the level of media, companies have checklists. It appears those checklist aim to use skin color as a wide web to catch as many people as possible. In a way these companies view skin color more important in their strategy, because they think it's more efficient. Not saying it is, but apparently they do

You're making an argument against something that doesn't particularly exist.

I feel like you completely misread my post. Because pretty much everything you're saying in here, agrees with my post.

Tober: I mostly agree with myself

Especially the last part that generalizing on only superficial character traits actually hurts representation more then it helps. In other words, do it right or don't do it at all. That's essentially the gist of it.

Assumptions in your first post:

Tober said:

DEI is not about diversity and inclusivety. It's about the Mirage of it.

It's born from the obsession to compartmentalize people in easily identifiable checkboxes. A spreadsheet in other words.

Let's put a Nigerian, Senegalese and Aboriginal all in the color coded bucket 'black', because of something arbitrary as similar shade of skin color. Totally ignoring their vastly different cultures. Then pretend if Samual L. Jackson stars in a Marvel movie, the Aboriginal feels representation. Where the truth is that Aboriginal feels more represented by Paul Hogan playing Crocodile Dundee.

There are thousands of different ethnicities and none of them are called 'white' or 'black'. And certainly not 'people of color'. Lazily trowing them in the same buckets and pretending that if every bucket is checkboxed is somehow representative of all, actually kills real diversity.

1.) That people think race is enough. That we can just put in a "black" character and call it a day.

2.) That people are ignoring vastly different cultures.

3.) That people are pretending that Samuel L Jackson is diverse enough, to cover aboriginals and other groups.

4.) That the goal is "checkboxing every bucket". 

No one is particularly advocating for these things as the end goal. At worst, they're stepping stones to other things. 

You do understand that this is not the place to write a novel to cover every intricacy and nuance. So to keep it readable and get the point across is to make choices. I made my choices to get the point across in a compact and readable format. For that point I refer back to my original post.