Will the Switch 2 finally be powerful enough and popular enough to get Nintendo all the top games?

[Chrkeller]

Mar1217 said:

Chrkeller said:

Lol, bandwidth is a bottleneck, which will push some 3rd party developers away, especially the lazy ones.

Games are only going to get more demanding, not less.  Think less "today" and more 5 years out.

Doesn't increase performance but prevents a reduction in performance...  lol.  Sounds like different side of same coin, but fair enough I'll endure to use "prevent reduction."

Nothing about my posts is wrong.  I stand by it.  But I'm sure you will zeldaring me again.

Edit

Legion Go is $600 with a Z1...  I don't see the S2 being a $600 system especially with the dock.

Simply put I think two things can be true, meaning they aren't mutually exclusive.  The S2 will be well positioned but some and expecting way too much performance.  

My argument is the hardware will push some 3rd party away.  If you disagree then by default you think no 3rd party companies are going to be disinterested in the S2....  good luck.  

You seem to be under the impression that I'm claiming ports can't happen.  That isn't my claim.  I'm saying many AAA won't happen, not they can't happen.  You might want to understand an argument before going full stalker mode.

To emphasize what should be obvious, I said I don't think it "will" get many newer ports.  I never said the hardware made it impossible.  

There's most definitely some wires crossed between both your arguments here and yet nonetheless, you have yet to substantially use actual facts to get your point across or refute his side of the argument. 

Most of what you said is speculatively based from anecdotal evidence and your own feelings. 

The moment you used the " Yet, the Steam Deck can't run games like Space Marine 2 or Dragon's Dogma 2" implies that you think another similar device wouldn't be able to support it.

Yet, a Lenovo Go is capable of doing it with the use of a more inefficient GPU/CPU than an eventual Switch 2 Nvidia custom chipset and API.

Despite the fact you both acquiesced to the bandwidth being a potential bottleneck, Real life applications as demonstrated by Pemalite truly proves that appart from "lazy devs" as you call it, these ports are definitely not out of the realm for the Switch successor if the current leaked specs are true.

Actually probably even less so in the future, considering how efficient and accustomed to some of these devs will be with the API in the future.

Even from a proportional standpoint, the Switch 2 hypothetically sits closer to the 9th Gen console bandwidth than the Switch 1 did with it's 8th Gen counterpart. Yet it got a port for Hogwarts Legacy. 

You're certainly not "wrong" that a callous publisher who's not willing to have the devs work on an eventual sound port are things that are gonna happen. There's the money aspect to the business.

Nonetheless, the point you tried to come across during this whole thread makes me think you genuinely think the porting job of those current "Next-Gen" games are to be herculean tasks that will outweight the cost-benefit aspect of the port jobs. 

Imo, I think there's going to be much less "friction" due to the industry also already dabbling into ARM architecture ports for mobile devices in general. Tools are more readily available for the task than they were when the Switch came in.

Anyway, I do think there isn't much that could be said about the argument in question. Otherwise, it's just gonna circle back again for another page or two. 

I used SM2 as an example because it does, at least right now, prevent a mobile device from running it.  Bear in mind SM2 recommends a 2060.  There are already a few 2025 titles that recommend a 2080, which is a substantial step up.  If the Switch launches in 2025 and has a 7 year life, I do question what ports will look over time.  In 2028, will games recommend a 3070?  A 3080?  Early gen ports won't be an issue at all for the S2.  My concern has only been for late gen ports, but perhaps you are correct and tools will still make porting simple.  I expect the switch 2 to be on the market post 2030.  

But yeah, not much to say really.  Other than people need to respectfully agree to disagree.