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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

All around meh when it comes to zen 5. Jensen needs to save us by providing worthy performance uplifts with 5xxx so we can talk about something.

I'll probably keep my 7800x3d and 4090 setup for a long time.

From what I gather from discussions with some people who know more about chip design, is that Ryzen 9000 is probably very hampered by it's memory, as in:

  1. the IO die being the same as for Zen 4
  2. The infinity fabric being at it's limit
  3. the internal memory buses for the caches, while having more throughput, also need longer to be filled because they are wider, causing some delays in operation.

As such, an X3D chip might be interesting, as it could alleviate those problems quite a bit