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LurkerJ said:

Over a decade of voting for less migration policies but no one gets what they voted for. Fanciful people on the left seeing no problems with this and have no solutions to offer, just follow Angela Merkel's "we can do this" nonsense without actually telling us how we can actually do it. (even though I am not really sure if these people actually mean what they say or just being partisan, Biden's "right wing" border policy was endorsed by the same people who lectured us on open borders for 10 years now). 

Take housing for example, we need millions of new homes to keep up with the current demand without accounting for the ridiculously high net migration. Let's look at Labour solution, 1.5 million new homes by 2029, so 300k homes every year. Simply not enough. But if you realise the pressing need for much higher numbers for new homes and you can't build them or force anyone to build them, then you have to acknowledge the consequences of this in the context of accommodating over 500k migrants a year.

Hey, the left is in power now, by all means, tax the rich and solve the issue your way and show us how "we can do it". The 300k target a year is the same one the Tories' set out but never achieved, net migration for 2022 and 2023 was over 700k per year, simply any narrative about Labour's housing plans solving any issues is a total lie because the numbers don't add up. Don't get me wrong, much better than what we had under the tories but still totally disingenuous. With how expensive housing is bankrupting the young and depriving them the chance of living a decent life no matter how higher the wages go, the dismissive attitude towards these concerns is incredibly selfish.  

Couple this measly target of new homes with Labour's plans to move illegal migrants from high end hotels and barges to rented houses around the country paid for by the government (aka tax money), and soon enough, the locals looking for rent will have more competition from the government that's trying to house illegal migrants, as if renting right now isn't a nightmare, soon you'll add 50k illegal migrants a year to the competition (without accounting for the ones already housed in hotels). 

Any rhetoric to accommodate massive number of migrants that isn't coupled with clear plans on how those migrants will be provided with housing and NHS services is a fanciful "we can do this" attitude that is detached from the struggles of the improvised communities around the country, and a slap in the face for any discussion based on numbers and stats, aka facts. I would love for Labour to prove me wrong, but they're not going based on what they told us so far. 

Angela Rayner 'turns back on Britons' as she axes plans to prioritise UK citizens over migrants on council house waiting lists

The previous Tory Government had proposed reforms which would have barred recent arrivals from applying for council homes - which Labour's new Housing Secretary has now formally shelved.

Michael Gove's proposals had included a "UK connection test", which would have meant only people who had lived in the country for 10 years or more were eligible to join the 1.3million-household-long queue for council properties.

Rayner immediately came under fire for the move, not least by Reform's Lee Anderson, who said it prioritised people "who have just arrived in our country".

Anderson said: "If you were born in this country, worked hard, paid your taxes and obeyed our laws, then not only will Labour steal your winter fuel payment - but they will also put your family at the bottom of the housing list in favour of people who have just arrived in our country. Why?"

And former Conservative minister Dame Andrea Jenkyns joined in the criticism, saying: "This is so wrong, I had a lot of former constituents waiting for years to get a house."

Amid the axing of Tory plans, the Labour Government is set to fast-track some 90,000 asylum applications from illegal migrants who had been facing deportation to Rwanda.

Two-thirds of migrants are expected to be granted the right to remain, which would enable them to qualify to apply for social housing.

Though, as a Housing Ministry spokesman highlighted, most councils already use "local connection tests" on their waiting lists.

The spokesman said: "The vast majority of councils have already adopted local connection tests, and 90 per cent of social homes go to UK nationals.

"Those who do not have a right to stay in the UK are already not eligible for social housing."

But Dr Mike Jones, executive director of Migration Watch UK, slated the Government's move, saying: "Labour isn't putting the 'national interest' first - they're putting non-citizens ahead of British people."

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/angela-rayner-migrants-council-house-waiting-lists

More of the "we can do this" BS, common sense be damned.