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haxxiy said:

It looks like the Ryzen 9000 series is just a more efficient 7000 series with small IPC improvements (5-10%).

Either TSMC is not delivering in the power-performance curves with N5/N4 or AMD overreacted to power consumption concerns (which, given Intel's current woes and how they were burned by FX a decade ago, it's understandable).

Considering the performance gains of the Ryzen Ai chips over their predecessors, I think power-savings and performance-per-Watt are the main gains of Ryzen 5. If pitted against a 7700 non-X the 9700X wins by about 12% while having pretty much exactly the same power draw.

They remind me a bit of the 4060Ti, which had about the same performance than the 3060Ti, but consumed markedly less power. Great for workstations where this can make a difference of quite some money, and later down the road as chiplets in the EPYC chips, but regular consumers can just as well take a 7700X.