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Chrkeller on 07 August 2024
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Ryuu96 said:
Chrkeller said:

I believe in posting my opinion formed from my experience.  And I was not impressed.  I'm not going to back off my experience.  

As for the fix.  I'm a chemist.  No idea how to fix healthcare.  That isn't my wheelhouse.  The US system isn't as bad, in my experience, as people make it out to be.  That was my point.  

After living in Europe I have personally concluded American's are whiny children who have zero idea how well they have it.  

I have no doubt that it's not that bad for people who can afford it. Did you not claim that you're very wealthy in another thread? Do you not think that maybe you're speaking at this from a position of privilege and struggling to understand why poor plebs like myself, love the NHS system and don't want it to go anywhere? Why poor people in America dislike America's system? I feel a lack of sympathy of peoples situations from yourself when we talk about this. You keep ignoring my point that millions simply cannot afford private healthcare and then call those people whiny.

Most employers offer insurance.  My insurance premiums are similar to most any full time jobs in the US.  $400 a month for a family plan and first 6 to 10k is out of pocket.  Which sounds expensive but bear in mind taxes are way lower and housing (outside the coasts) are far cheaper.  Financially I think it is a wash.  Salaries are also higher in the States, based on median.  

Point being I think it is unfair to look at the US as medical being expensive while not looking at total financial burden.  

And I wasn't born affluent nor did my first job out of school pay well.  Healthcare can be a burden in the States but high taxes and expensive houses in Europe is also a burden.  So it is a wash.  Except east and west coast, those places are stupid expensive and I would never live there.  

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And I'm surprised you diagree that Americans are whiney as crap.  I mean the average conservative is convinced our country is terrible and close to complete failure.  It isn't and the US is actually one of the better places on the planet to live.  

Heck want to talk about 1st world problems?  We are debating which books should be allowed in libraries.

Hopefully some day the conservative party wakes up because they are currently baffling.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 07 August 2024