EU and UK politics [OT]

[Chrkeller]

Ryuu96 said:

Chrkeller said:

It isn't a lie.  It was awful.  I've lived in both the US and UK.  Being told "wait 6 months, hope she doesn't become deformed" was awful.

If isn't a lie.  It is real life 100% factual first hand experience.

My experience is my experience.  You can't call my experience a lie.  That is wrong and you know it.  

Hopefully bracing keeps her problem at bay and it doesn't get worse.  It shouldn't, given her age.  

If your experience was better, that is great.  But have you noted I'm not disrespectful about your experience?  Meanwhile you are calling me lair.  Give that some thought.  

And thank you for the offer, I will bear it in mind if it gets worse.  

I'm not saying your experience is a lie, I'm saying your generalisation is a lie. You have a real-life factual first-hand experience and I never refuted that, I said that the generalisation that NHS is terrible for anything more complex than a "head cold and flu shot" is a lie...You honestly can't believe that, I don't know how you could believe that, if this was true, the NHS wouldn't even exist, it would collapse overnight. Can you not even see how extreme that example is? Can you not see why I take issue with it?

And I'll say again, millions of people simply cannot afford private, so they'd much rather NHS issues fixed. You can afford private. Aside from your extreme criticism, you speak from a position of privilege. You was told you have to wait 6 months so you said "fuck that" and went private...Cause the option is still there...To millions though, the option of going private is simply not an option for financial reasons...And for millions of people, they have positive experiences with the NHS.

So I ask again, why is having a public system but also the option of private, a bad thing? 

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I had a body brace too, at that age they tend to monitor, some cases won't require treatment at all and the rate of growth tends to be slow, body braces will usually fix the majority of cases that require treatment, I was just really unlucky and fuck all worked, Lol. The odds are very much in your kids favour though. I actually started off in one hospital for the brace and then got moved to a different one about an hour away from home

Your daughter will hopefully be fine, like I said, the odds are in her favour, I was REALLY unlucky.

I do believe what I said, because that was 100% my first hand experience.

And yes, we didn't want to risk my daughter's health because a 6 month wait is part of the system.  Seems like a flawed system.

Having both systems just means one or both aren't working as intended. 

My point is the public system, in the US, is being sold as a silver bullet....  and I disagree firmly.  My experience says otherwise.  Trading one problem for another, expense with limited access to specialists.