EU and UK politics [OT]

[Chrkeller]

Ryuu96 said:

Chrkeller said:

It isn't a lie, facts are facts.  My daughter has a spinal issue and her main doctor scheduled an appointment with a specialist that was a 6 month wait.  We were shocked and he shrugged, blatantly told us if we didn't want to wait, go private.  

We went private because she was at risk at getting worse within 6 months.  

Frankly I was always told by the US media that long wait times was a myth for public healthcare...  sorry but it wasn't a myth.  This happened just a couple years ago.

Facts are facts.  

Perhaps it used to be better before the Torys.  I have no experience pre-Tory.  

All I can say is I wasn't impressed with the wait time and how nonchalant the doctor was about waiting 6 months to even see a specialist.  

Edit

The US system, to be fair, is flawed.  Heavily flawed.  But NHS is heavily flawed as well. 

It is a lie...Come on man. You straight up said that the NHS was terrible for anything more complex than a cold/flu...Do you even realise how utterly ridiculous that sounds? My own various experiences show that is a bold faced lie too. I'm not even denying that the NHS has problems with waiting times in some cases, but that doesn't mean all cases. You're generalising the NHS with a ridiculously broad brush and talking mad shit about it in extreme examples (cold/flu) to talk up private healthcare.

I'm sorry about how you felt treated by your doctor, I'd suggest trying to switch doctors, I'm sorry for your daughter that the wait time is 6 months but you have the ability to go private and millions do not. I'm not taking issue with people complaining about NHS wait times, I'm taking issue with a rich person complaining about NHS wait times who has the ability to hop over to private (private still exists in the UK).

Why is it a bad thing that we have both public healthcare and also a private option?

P.S. Sorry about your daughter, if she has what I have then I'd be willing to talk to you about it if it can help.

Just to be clear, I have Scoliosis, happy to admit that if I can help someone else with it.

I just really dislike the extreme generalisation that NHS is terrible for anything above colds/flus.

It isn't a lie.  It was awful.  I've lived in both the US and UK.  Being told "wait 6 months, hope she doesn't become deformed" was awful.

If isn't a lie.  It is real life 100% factual first hand experience.

My experience is my experience.  You can't call my experience a lie.  That is wrong and you know it.  

Hopefully bracing keeps her problem at bay and it doesn't get worse.  It shouldn't, given her age.  

If your experience was better, that is great.  But have you noted I'm not disrespectful about your experience?  Meanwhile you are calling me lair.  Give that some thought.  

And thank you for the offer, I will bear it in mind if it gets worse.  

Edit

And I believe in being fair.  For flu, athletes foot, Ring worm, sinus infection, etc NHS was amazing.  Only had issues when a specialist was required.

Edit 2

And if helps I'll amend/clarify that NHS was terrible for specialist in "my experience."  Others people's mileage could vary.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 07 August 2024