Jimbo1337 said:
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Please provide your vgchartz post where you explicitly mentioned that this shooter donated to the Progressive Turnout Project. I searched through your previous posts and couldn't find it. I'm asking for this because I want the facts to be laid out for all to see.
This Post - "Donated to Democrats then registered as Republican"
Voting against Republican Senators and Republican House of Representatives is a vote against Trump and the Trump MAGA movement. It would be intellectually dishonest to suggest that the Republicans running today don't support this MAGA movement.
Okay, but you have no proof that he voted against Republican Senators or House of Reps still.
Also, he isn't a running Republican, so that's irrelevant (and also incorrect to claim that all running Republicans support the MAGA movement). This dude is a voter and there are many people who classify themselves as Republican but hate the MAGA movement, have some of this very website, have a few prominent Republican politicians both former and current (Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney, Susan Collins). There were literally thousands of Republicans protest voting against Trump for Nikki Haley. Not to mention there is even sometimes conflict between the lunatics from Nick Fuente's camp who believe that Trump isn't extreme enough! There are Republicans upset at Trump publicly denouncing Project 2025.
It is strong evidence because he donated to PTP FOURTEEN DAYS after January 6th.
Yeah...He donated $15 after a violent attempted insurrection then registered as a Republican 8 months later.
Your entire scenario is based on this being a mass shooting.
Correct. And you're claiming it's not an attempted mass shooting because...? He failed to kill more than 3 people? Well Trump was attempted murder, 1 is dead and 2 are critically wounded so there you go, by your own definition it would be an attempted mass shooting. He was attempting to kill people in a populated area.
The entire news media is labeling this event as an assassination on a former president.
And I agree with that labelling, it was clearly an assassination attempt.
Words matter. Stop trying to tie this to previous mass shooting events when the definition doesn't fit the scenario. Those previous mass shooting events didn't have a political motive. I would say that trying to assassinate a former president who is a "danger to democracy" is politically motivated.
If you want to try to trip me up on semantics then fine, I'll say it's a dude at the end of his tether and wanted to go out with a bang, firing into a crowded area and against Donald Trump is certainly that, again that is my theory based on the evidence presented and I will say once again, your theory that he is a progressive extremist who was planning on voting against Republicans is NOT a fact as much as you want it to be.
A lot of shootings in America don't have a political motive, I think it's just as likely that this one doesn't and the dude just wanted to go out with a bang, as most shooters do, they know they aren't surviving, they know they're going to die, they want to inflict as much damage as possible before that time comes. If this dude was genuinely bullied, a loner, isolated, then it's equally as likely he went down some dark rabbit holes which fed his dark thoughts and resulted in what happened because it happens all the damn time in America, except this time it wasn't a school being shot up, it was a former President.
Other users do not agree with you. The more I point out your fallacies the more it is apparent that your made up scenario falls apart.
Other users don't agree with you too, see how easy I can say the same? 
Mine's a theory, yours is a theory, here are the facts, I'll repeat them again.
- He donated $15 to a Dem initiative in 2021.
- He registered as Republican 8 months later (around the age of 17-18).
- He was bullied according to former classmates, a bit of a loner, with an interest in guns.
- He was killed wearing a shirt of a pro-gun/right wing Youtuber channel.
- He didn't express any political stances in school, offer any criticism of Trump.
- Discord didn't find anything suggesting a political motive in his Discord account either.
- No manifesto has yet been found.
I believe he's a broken guy pushed to the brink like so many Americans and did something disgusting. You believe he's a secret Democrat agent who made a multi-year long-term plan in 2021 at the ripe age of 17 only to then be like "Fuck the plan I'm going to get myself killed" Fine...You might be right, he's clearly not a mentally stable person, but your stance is also NOT fact.
Only one dude here is desperately trying to pin this on the other political party and it is you, I'm actually being somewhat kind to the Republicans here, I could EASILY make the case that cause he's a registered Republican, he's clearly a Republican jaded with the current direction of the party and that is what set him off...But I'm not.
Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 14 July 2024
