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Jimbo1337 said:
Ryuu96 said:

Yeah...Except I already mentioned that in other posts.

He donated $15 to the PTP on Jan 20th, 2021. He was 17 years old at that time, then 8 months later he registered as a Republican on Sep 2021. Your theory is that he registered as a Republican to vote against Trump 3 years in advance, only to decide to throw it all away and get himself killed when there's 3 months left to vote? Not to mention, the shirt he was wearing is for a gun focused, right-leaning YouTube Channel.

Why I say it leans towards him not having a political motive is because he ticks all the boxes of your average American mass shooter, a loner who was heavily bullied in high school. His classmates also say he never spoke politics or criticised Trump, Discord has access to his account where they say he didn't speak politics or express hatred towards Trump, his socials offer nothing, there is no manifesto, yet. His political allegiance as a very young guy was shifting, yes, from the donation to Dems to registering as a Republican, the more likely explanation for that is the dude was 17 years old, young people are susceptible to changing their views quite easily, especially isolated ones like he is described as.

If you're angry at the world, want to go out in a blaze of glory and immortalise your name, what is a better way than killing a former President? I find this more plausible than "the dude registered as a Republican 3 years in advance in a masterful long-term plan to vote against Trump only to say fuck it, time to kill Trump with 3 months left on my masterful plan"

And Trump was registered Democrat once, people change.

I could easily say "He's a registered Republican, clearly it was a Republican trying to kill Trump, probably hates what Trump has done to the Republican Party or maybe he's a Nick Fuentes fanboy some of which have issues with Trump, etc." but I don't and instead find the "typical mass shooter" scenario to be the most plausible with the facts we have right now. You think he's a radical progressive Democrat because he donated $15 to them in 2021. Maybe I'm wrong but with the evidence we have right now, I'd argue that your scenario is far more implausible.

I get that you aren't an American and likely don't understand the entire voting system, but there are other elections besides the presidential election every four years. We have elections ever 2 years that completely change the representatives in the House and a portion of the senators (since they have a 6 year term limit). So you can't just zero in on the presidential election, which happens every 4 years, as the sole reason for someone to shift their voter registration. There is strong evidence that he wanted to vote against republicans in 2022 and 2024 based on his actions (donating his money to the progressive campaign).

The entire rest of your post is just making up a scenario to fit the expected outcome you desire. The fact is that this shooter donated money on January 20, 2021 to the Progressive Turnout Project. This is 14 days after January 6th, 2021. 

Here is the Progressive Turnout Project's Facebook post today: "It's simple people: Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy and another four years of him would be detrimental to our country."

Source: https://www.facebook.com/turnoutpac/

The shooter therefore thought that Trump is a threat to American Democracy. Since he tried to kill Trump, the timing of his donation, and who he donate his money to, he is a radical progressive democrat by definition. That's the evidence we have. No made up scenario like you did. Just the facts.

First you said he registered as a Republican to vote against Trump, now he registered as a Republican to vote against Republican Senators, House Members, etc. Okay Dokey. Lol. I didn't zero in on the Presidential election, it was you, now you're adding more because I pointed out he registered as a Republican in 2021 so it was unlikely to be for President.

How is there *strong* evidence that he wanted to vote against Republicans in 22/24 based on him donating $15 to a progressive campaign in 2021 and then later registering as a Republican...That ain't strong evidence. You accuse me of making up scenarios to fit the outcome I desire, that is exactly what you are doing here, over a $15 donation...

The outcome I would desire is not even the outcome I've described, if I hate Trump (which I do) and hate the Republican Party (which I do) then the outcome I would say is that he is a Republican who has became jaded against Donald Trump for various reasons (shocking to you, those Republicans do exist, though are rare).

Instead I say the outcome is likely to be yet another mass shooter in America, in a country with a severely lacking mental health support, with an incredibly easy access to deadly weapons, a man who was bullied his entire life, isolated and alone, tried to commit a horrific act and hit back at the world, where better to do that than a mass gathering like Trump's against a former President.

How many mass shooters has America had now? How many young white males let down by the system have gone on to commit disgusting acts now?

The facts are he donated to Progressives in 2021 and Registered as a Republican after, that his shirt was for a pro-gun/right leaning YouTube channel, that he was a loner who was bullied in High School, that he didn't express any political stance to his friends or any criticism of Trump, nor did he do so on Discord. Those are the facts and everything else is theory and I find my theory holds more water than yours with the facts that we have.

Your "He registered as a Republican to vote against Democrats" is NOT fact. I'm not actually desperately trying to pin my theory to blame Republicans as you're desperately trying to invent a theory to blame Democrats. I'm simply saying he is likely yet another fucked up dude who wanted to kill people as America has so many of them, there's absolutely no hard evidence so far that he was politically motivated on either side.

SO FAR.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 14 July 2024