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iron_megalith said:

Ok. I'll bite. Just this part though.

Trump was not the one that normalized extremism. If you are looking for the gateway to extremism, then blame the media. For 8 years, they have called Trump a fascist, likened him to Hitler himself, while constantly saying that he is "an existential threat to democracy™".

You are joking right?
Trump -did- factually normalize extremism... I have provided the evidence on this prior.

As for the media... There are tons of media outlets that support Trump and the conservative agenda, the bias angle was weaponized by Donald Trump to undermine his opponents that may actually be reporting genuine facts that are supported by evidence.
It's a bullshit argument at best... As this chart showcases to a small degree.


The New York Sun, The Wall Street Journal, Fox news, National Conservatism, NewsMax and more are all conservative outlets that have genuinely and consistently attacked democrats and the left.

And just remember... Conservatives have also consistently and historically called leaders like Biden a "Threat to democracy".
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rfk-jr-says-biden-much-worse-threat-to-democracy-than-trump

You give as good as you get in my eyes.

iron_megalith said:

Him calling someone funny names is not even comparable to constantly marking someone as an actual existential threat to all people's lives.

Trump has consistently threatened others.
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/trump-has-threatened-dozens-of-times-to-use-the-government-to-target-political-enemies/

Name calling is just stupid and should not be defended, give as good as you get.

iron_megalith said:

Right now, people shouldn't rest easy. In an earthquake, there are aftershocks. I'm expecting the worse to come because the media, and society at hand, had years to cultivate such extremist mindset.

Considering that Trump was chanting "fight" after the shooting, he has already energized his fanbase.. And we saw that already once before when Trump tried to throw out democracy by enabling and asking his fanbase to storm the capital.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

iron_megalith said:

I really wish this country the very best but I've long detached myself from things that are out of my control. If this country fully embraces the fringe left's divisive ideology, then so be it.

The left isn't divisive, it's built on being inclusive.

Gays, Lesbians, Trans, African, Asian, Native American, European, Male, Female, Old and Young... The left is literally built on the back on being inclusive and promoting equality and equity.
To assert otherwise showcases that you don't know what being progressive is actually about.

It's conservatives who wish to shut that down and have a more "traditional" and "Old Fashioned" hierarchy that is divisive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

Literally being progressive/left wing is to "seek to achieve social equality and egalitarianism".

iron_megalith said:

It's shameful that I took an oath for American citizenship, but I've been so heavily disillusioned and just don't want to deal with its politics. I'mma just save up money till I have enough to live in my third world shithole. It might be a shithole, but at least it's a shithole where I have no expectations.

The only allegiance and oath I have is to protect life, property and the environment... And the borders that encompass a nation is irrelevant to that end.

If more people had that outlook, the world would be a better place in my opinion.