Biden vs Trump 2024 Political Platforms, Policies and Issues

[Chrkeller]

zorg1000 said:

Chrkeller said:

It isn't a fact, lol.  Wow.  I'm always amazed at what people think is a fact versus what is an opinion.  Extreme is going to viewed based on personal standards, which varies from person to person.  A fact is something like Na being 22.9 Daltons.  It is measurable.  Measuring "extreme" is nothing more than a personal opinion.    

Also, since you can't read very well, I didn't say I thought the left was as extreme.  But clearly many do, because their belief system is different than mine.  You can't claim, at least shouldn't, opinions as facts.  

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Electoral college is a can of worms.  Just because some haven't won the majority doesn't mean they couldn't.  If we change the system they way people campaign will change.  Results wouldn't be a linear extrapolation.

Ok, it’s not a fact, it’s common sense. Anybody who tries to claim that forgiving student debt is anywhere in the realm of stripping women of rights or trying to overthrow democracy can’t be taken seriously.

Yes you did, these are direct quotes from your last few posts:

“ I mean each side trying to out extreme each other is beyond broken.”-this quote is directly saying the left is trying to be more extreme than the right and vice versa.

” Both parties are extreme and neither are focused on the middle class, which is the point.”-this is a typical “both sides” argument which doesn’t directly say they are the same but implies they are similar.

You claim I don’t read well but you didn’t even bother to go back and read what you previously said.

It’s not really a can of worms, you change from Electoral College to national popular vote and now you have to be appealing to a majority of Americans instead of having slightly more swing voters in a handful of competitive states. Gore had over 500k more votes but lost because of ~500 votes in a single state. Hilary had almost 3 million more votes but lost because of ~80k votes in 3 states. Biden had over 7 million more votes and only won because of ~80k votes in 4 states. Same goes for eliminating the Senate filibuster and eliminating partisan gerrymandering for the House. You put these things in place and it’s much harder for the party with a minority of votes to win or block the majority from enacting their policies.

Also, once again you ignore that big list of pro-middle class things Democrats passed or attempted to pass in the last few years.

Congrats!  You learned the difference between fact and opinion.

And I never said debt forgiveness was more extreme than abortion ban.  That is just a lie on your part. 

In fact what I said included:

"For the record I tend to agree with this particular opinion"

So yeah, you don't read very well.

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And Electoral college is a can of worms.  If the system changes so does campaigning and voting behavior.  The linear extrapolation is foolish.  That isn't how science, human behavior and math work.  

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