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Torillian 5 days ago
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pokoko said:
Torillian said:

What has the left done in this position that compares to trying to overturn an election you lost as far as "threat to Democracy" goes?

Since Democrats have tried to overturn elections and claimed that they were stolen or that Republicans cheated, I'm not sure where you're going with this question.  I'm certain none of them has tried as hard as Trump, of course, but being allowed to settle such claims in the courts is actually part of the democratic process.  Would you really prefer the alternative?  I know there are plenty of countries where protesting an election will get you thrown into prison.  Is that actually an improvement?  The process worked exactly as it should, with almost all of Trump's cases being dismissed from a lack of evidence.  

Personally, I consider the idea of one party having too much power over the media to be much more dangerous, though I do understand that many, many people DO want that ... as long as the party they like is the one in charge.  Now that I think about it, the most common sentiment for everything seems to be "it's okay if my side does it but not the other side," so whatever.  It's just something I'll have to accept.

You said the Left is doing worse thing for democracy than Trump on his best day. I'm figuring his "best day" for this was probably Jan 6th where he implored his VP to not count the electors as required, got a crowd together to march on the capital, when the riot was ongoing his subordinates called congressmembers saying "y'know maybe things are too crazy and we shouldn't certify the results". A sitting president did more than any in our history to try to fuck over the function of our democracy to such a degree that a sizeable portion of our electorate no longer believes in the legitimacy of elections (a cornerstone of any democracy). The idea that this is overshadowed by how the media and higher education are mostly left leaning is baffling to me. Is it based solely on the idea that Trump didn't succeed in any of these attempts so he gets a pass?

Lastly, if the process worked as it should have you wouldn't have most of the republicans no longer believing in elections they lose. The sorest of losers has screwed over our voting system for possibly decades and you're mad that professors are progressive. 



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