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Ryuu96 on 28 June 2024
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LurkerJ said:

@Ryuu96

I’m actually a yay labour kind of person right now (except for the immigration stance but let’s face it, even the tories miserably failed on that front). Pleasantly surprised to see, Torsten Bell, an economist I followed for years, running for Labour. Even if he doesn’t win, he’ll be a great asset. Labour is also working with Mariana Mazzucato, another economist that I have followed and learned a great deal from. She has brilliantly touched on everything wrong with western economics for over a decade now.

I think (or hope?) Sir Kier will be full pleasant surprises when it comes to the economy, a shame he, like Biden, let people like Netanyahu weaken labour’s support, could’ve won even bigger in places like Scotland.

Oh yeah, no doubt there's a lot of genuine Labour supporters like yourself, it's just funny to see how many people seem to be less about Labour and more about wanting to see the Tories suffer, Lol. I can't wait to see them suffer personally, I hope/think this election will have a lot of tactical voting just to stick the knife in even more, after 14 years the Tories did fuck all for UK except make it worse, let that be a lesson to electing right-wing governments who promise the world.

I'm celebrating July 4th and taking some comfort in that, at least I can be happy about one election, while dreading the American one, Lol. I think Labour will be better than Tories in almost every way, I have confidence they'll un-fuck the economy somewhat but they have a lot of damage to undo and he has to do it fast because economic depression could cause people to vote Reform UK in the future.

Equally disappointed in Keir's stance on Israel/Palestine, don't even know why, do you think voters even give a shit about Israel in the UK? Personally I don't but maybe I'm wrong? The UK needs to make a decision if Trump wins whether it wants to continue being America's lapdog or whether it wants to be a leader of Europe and I think in the vacuum of America ditching Europe, UK could really step up if it chooses to do so and form tight bonds, particularly with Eastern/Central Europe, Baltic and Nordic countries.

Lets face it, someone will have to stand up and it will have to be one of the nuclear holding countries, either the UK or France, Germany isn't up to the task, I just hope the UK doesn't go in its shell if America abandons Ukraine...All the major political parties support Ukraine at least. I'd rather UK aligns itself more with Europe than America from a military standpoint if Trump wins, I don't trust that fucker at all, I especially don't trust him on military alliances, not when he bats for Russia who regularly threatens the UK and our allies. 

And then recognise Palestine as a state, but I doubt that happens.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 28 June 2024