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Machiavellian said:
Ryuu96 said:

Wild to think that Keir Starmer, Former Director of Public Prosecutions, may end up hosting a convicted Felon (Donald Trump).

I'm not jumping into dooming but my optimism has been hit, all I see is that Biden's debate performance was awful and he looked super old which is disappointing considering his SOTU address only 3 months ago was great and caused Republicans to go into overdrive and change the narrative that Biden is now on drugs because of how good it was. I also read that Trump didn't answer any questions and just spewed a bunch of bullshit lies like a lunatic but we've seen in the past how much "charisma" helps candidates no matter how much nonsense they say.

Scary to think America could elect a dictator wannabe, a trend towards the far-right, France is trending towards the fa-right and the Nazi AFD Party is growing in Germany. The UK will somehow be the most left-leaning parliament of the major powers, although we'd be more centre than anything. I'll be happy to see the Tories wiped out but if Trump wins, JFC.

Can't help but feel disgusted at America if they elect Trump again (and anyone who votes for him). Europe needs to pull its finger out its ass and start moving away from America as Macron told us to do so years ago, this sick fuck straight up said he would encourage Russia to kill America's European allies if they didn't spend 2% on their own military, if America elects Trump then Europe needs to drop America like a bag of rocks.

Democrats have a big issue now, need to ramp up quickly and blast everything they have, no time to waste to undo this damage, for the people who recommend a candidate change though, who would even be a viable alternative? The only one that comes to my mind is Newsom but he still feels too early and would have baggage attached to him just for the simple fact of being from California, Lol. Didn't seem that Trump exactly "won" but just performed better than an awful Biden. I'm not sure though, anyone has a better chance than Biden still.

If I was American this debate wouldn't change my mind on voting Biden over that horrible fucker but damn...

Don't sweat it to much, if Trump gets elected then that is what America wants and they will get the full Monty of it.  I find that when people make bad decisions only living with those decisions hopefully helps them not make it again.  At the end of the day, I doubt anything of significance will change even if Trump gets reelected.  He will still be the idiot he has always been, probably screw some stuff up and make America look like clowns for 4 years or do something so stupid they really remove him from office.  As for myself, nothing really changed for myself under Trump in my day to day life because that is more state related and not federal.  

Trump is a different candidate now, the number of dictatorships who have vested interest in not only getting the guy elected but also keeping him in power is scary. It wouldn’t be as scary if Europe was an independent continent but independent we are not. 

Americans, I am sorry but you’re lame, I am sure even Trump is surprised he has this much support despite not getting anything done about anything he ran on. If they actually paid attention, Biden is delivering on those very same promises a lot more than Trump did.  

What I don’t understand is why Biden agreed to this stupid debate in the first place. Trump is Trump, no debate will change this or highlight his inadequacies to his  cult. Why bother? DNC incompetence is unfathomable.

As for Europe; It’s different there, the left is losing as a result of their own inaction and Starmer is only winning because…. who else are you going to vote for? Unlike Americans, brits seem to care that election promises were broken…. 

Biden obviously will shoulder some of the blame if he loses but imo he’s been doing great (although his stances on immigration and Gaza aren’t helping), but current Europeans leaders have only themselves to blame.