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Soundwave on 13 June 2024
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RedKingXIII said:
Soundwave said:

I wouldn't say AW2 is a flop ... Senua's Saga is definitely a flop, Starfield is a massive disappointment that quite probably was the straw that broke the camel's back and killed the XBox brand in a lot of way. Immortals of Aveum is a flop. Basically the two big Unreal Engine 5 games so far this gen have both flopped. Avatar I would say is a sales dud. Forspoken is a flop for sure. Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is a bitter dissapointment sales wise especially considering the prestige of the brand/legacy (FF7 is one of the greatest games ever made) and that it's the best reviewed Final Fantasy game in ages. 

Alan Wake 2 still struggling to break even is a disappointment I'd say, you'd expect a bit more from a game that even won GOTY awards, has so much hype from the gaming media, the tech media, etc. just goes to show all of those sources mean dick all for sales. 

I'd say AW2 is a flop... at least for now. I believe when it's all said and done it will be profitable, there's the physical release coming, another DLC, a possible Steam release, bigger discounts and maaaybe a Switch 2 version in the future, so there's still tons of potential for sales. It's just another case of a good game not doing great because of some terrible bussiness decisions. It has nothing to do with the quality of the game and fortunately it's not a failure that kills a studio, Remedy is fine and developing 3 games. I'm really excited about Control 2, personally.

The thing is they wouldn't have been able to make the game without that deal. Epic financed it, medium sized studios don't just have $85 million laying around, that's a lot of money even for a pretty big studio giving to one of their teams. For a studio that isn't like under the umbrella of a Sony or EA, there's probably no way they could have ever afforded to make that game otherwise. 

It needed to sell more on the PS5 + XBox Series S/X and it should be, but alas it hasn't really worked out that way.